lionel vision loco's need your thoughts ASAP

IS IT TIME TO RE-DO THE C&O STREMLINE HUDSON. THATS A COOL LOOKING LOCO

What about a J3a, a highly detailed, "modern tooled"  hudson.

 

Lou,

 

Long Island GP38, C420 in the wave paint scheme. We've seen enough of the grey/orange schemes.

 

Thanks,

Sunrise

Lou, Since we were told at the red carpet event that the Big Boy will be the next Vision line engine due out in early 2014 I will not list that one. So here is my list.

Any Cab Forward black or the Daylight colors would be super

C & O Yellowbelly Hudson

Scale Chessie Steam Special Bershire

Dryfuss Hudson

PRR S-2 Turbine

B & O Blue & Gray Pacific

I would like to see a Vision Line or Legacy Chessie T-1, in the livery of the 1990-91 version (6-18011).

 

Bill

Lou an updated Commodore Vanderbuilt.

All good ideas so far. 

A New York Central K-5 Pacific.

 

A New York Central H10a/b 2-8-2.

A vision Big Blow Turbine would be super. Especially if they could make it shoot flames

 

A scale Niagara with the works would also be a nice change from all the hudsons.

I'd like a Legacy scale Reading T-1 in American Freedom Train colors (and I'm sure there would be lots of interest in the regular scheme, especially with extra features like whistle steam).

 

Andy

The Erie Triplex. This engine deserves the full Lionel treatment with full smoke effects -whistle steam, blowdown, cylinders, and of course, an awesome sound system.

While MTH will undoubtedly make another run of this model, I'd prefer a Lionel version due to their better sound system.

 

Any steam in Reading RR or PRSL would be awesome.

 

A re-issue of the scale Polar Express would be great, too. Heck, you can put the PE or Polar Railroad name on any scale steamer and I'd likely buy it. A cab forward with the PE or PR name has been on Santa's list for some time.

why have a sp cab forward done in daylight colors or a up big boy in greyhound-at lionels price last thing I would buy is a fantasy piece-big boy in gold late-sounds interesting but I would need a mortgage to buy it

what about a nyc rs3 highly detailed-nyc 2-8-0 plus other lines in 2-8-0

nyc alco pa aba done correctly-no silver trucks

nyc e7 aba -plus other rr lines in e7

talk to them about better quality control of their products coming out of the factory

what good is buying very expensive toy trains if they do not run correctly

How about a vision line 4 Truck Shay? Awesome sound, smoke, working bell, whistle steam. I would love it!

I like the idea of the C&O streamlined Hudson..how about doing it in the original colors..The orange that MTH did their C&O Turbine in.

Scott Smith

PRR S2 6-8-6 scale turbine. 

Lou,

 

Either of these with Legacy.

 

 

Vision line Hudson Dreyfus

love to see a Reading T-1 done right it would be a good seller and could be offered

 with few outher paint sceams.

I vote for a cab forward - not Daylight colors but the gray version AC-5 that has been done recently in HO and I think many years back in O scale by Sunset 3rd Rail. 

 

I'd certainly prefer that to any novelty gold plated item and anyway that's not what the idea behind the Vision line was.

 

I agree with the comments about QC made above and surely Lionel's US staff must be getting sick of having to deal with defects/issues in high end products!

What he said!

 

The Dreyfus Hudson is the old one on your list I would be interested in.  I think I've bought all the Vision steamers up to now, but a T-1, consolidation or Mountain would not interest me.  I have the JLC Big boy and a Vision version would not be enough better to make me buy.

 

A Dreyfus Hudson, 2900 ATSF Northern, or Veranda Turbine for me.

N&W Big Steam, A, Y-6 etc.

Also C&O streamlined Hudson.

 

Doug

Definitely a Vision Line C&O streamlined Hudson. Offer it with both the original orange boiler and the later yellow (might double the sales with two versions ). Rework the nose to get the contour right, needs to be a little more rounded. Here's a picture of the MTH C&O M-1 in orange compared to the Lionel L-1.

 

Also a USRA Heavy Mikado that can be offered in several railroad versions.

 

E-8/9's.

 

 

Ken

I would second the N&W Class A as well as the PRR T-1 Duplex.

Chicago and NorthWestern H class 4-8-4

1. PRR S-2 Turbine

2. PRR S-1 Duplex(the unskirted version)

3. PRR T-1 Duplex(the unskirted version with portholes)

4. NYC Niagra

5. Any streamlined NYC Hudson

6. C&O Greenbrier

7. C&O/Virginian Allegheny

 

Bill

Amtrak P30CH !! Nobody makes it. Kind of an "oddball" but it would be perfect for the Vision Line, IMO. It's been a long time since Lionel has made a scale Amtrak diesel. This would be a great candidate! Die cast too, please!

Again better quality control.

I have a Vision line Hudson 5344 ' Works, looks and sounds great. CANNOT KEEP THE SMOKE UNIT WORKING. It is in for repair 4th time as we speak.

 

I really like Visiion Line Products as a whole and will purchase another.

 

Brent

i'm bringing them A list of Amtrak items

Just being shipped by Sunset/3rd Rail in both 3-rail and 2-rail. I saw the production model at the Chicago O Scale "March Meet" last month and you will NOT believe this model!

Another vote for a USRA Heavy Mikado in multiple roads!

Lou, all those big engines guys are requesting are nice, but who is really going to buy enough of those $1500-1700.00 engines to allow Lionel to make them?

I'm in favor of some of the smaller ones, IE: 2-8-0 Consolidations and 2-8-2 Mikados, or best of all, an N&W 4-8-0 which Lionel has NEVER made.

Let's face it, have them build some Legacy engines we can afford. As for diesels, forget it, the market is flooded with Legacy diesels!

Build some small to medium UNUSUAL steam people will actually buy.

Let us all know how your meeting goes, thanks for your hard work for the hobby.

 

Coming this summer from Sunset/3rd Rail! Check out their website as there are some photos of BOTH versions.

All scale size with Legacy (And steam effects on steam engines):

PRR 2-10-2 N1s

 

N&W Class A  2-8-8-4  #1218

 

21” Passenger Sets: 

Amfleet 

Amtrak Viewliner Sleeper & Diner 

Amtrak Bi-Level sets w/ Full Dome car

Santa Fe Bi-Level sets w/ Full Dome car

Penn Central

 

Reading Crusader scale full set w/ 21" cars

Amtrak E60

Metroliners:

PRR, Penn Central, Amtrak 

 

Rail Diesel Cars (RDC) scale sets (any and all roads)

Penn Central GG1 (black paint)

And please spread them out over a few catalogs, please!  

If you don't already make them, how about Amtrak's Genesis units? Or maybe for unusual steam, a IHB 0-8-0 with the tender booster (I think it's the U2 class). Also, maybe you could rework the software a little so Legacy engines can be operated  by DCS with the same amount of componets it takes to run TMCC engines on DCS? Just sayin'.

1)  A re-issue of Union Pacific 844 with whistle steam. In Black.  Add a Lionel Lines tender as an option....b/c now you can and still be "correct".  Don't change anything else.  Loco is already perfect....with the red Mars lense.

 

2) Strongly agree with C&O 4-8-4 614 mentioned above.  Lionel could issue more than one paint scheme at several times, thus reducing their total fixed costs...other than whistle steam of course.

 

3) Great Northern 4-8-4 (or anything close) in Glacier Park paint scheme.  A chance for Lionel to exceed MTH or Third Rail, perhaps?  They did so with the UP FEF.  It can be done!

 

4)  Personally, I'm a sucker for any NKP scale Berkshire.  How about adding whistle steam?  Road number 759 or 763 or even 755 perhaps?  No mars light, though.  The tooling obviously exists.  And, in my opinion, Lionel outdid MTH on these locos.

 

My personal view/perception:  Any model of a currently operating or near operating steam locomotive is immensely more popular than a model that no longer exists.  If you can see it, hear it, ride it, etc. - you're more likely to buy it, me thinks.

 

Also, a finely detailed model of an irrelevant or nonexistent prototype just doesn't make sense.  (I'm a big NKP fan but why would some one shell out the $$$ for an NKP 2-10-4 that never was?  The mallet has been played out, IMHO.)

 

That's my two cents.  Three bucks more will get me a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

NYC Niagara!

Enough said.

Mike R

Of course a Vision Line Canadian Pacific(6-28320) Evolution Hybrid with different road number

John