GGD Missouri Pacific EAGLES. (MP T&P passenger trains)

I would like E7s in MoP, and Frisco again, even CB§Q.

O scale Key Model PAs in MoP attached below

@Griff Murphey posted:

  While we are on the subject  my new Lionel T&P F-7s will not run on the MTH Z-400. Their horn sounds “Nert-nert!” like a kid’s  bike horn. I have a 90’s Lionel B unit with a great, throaty horn I run with my childhood SF F-3s. How come they lost that technology?!?
    I have one of the fantasy mint chocolate color (repaint planned) Lionel T&P 4-6-0’s I had to send it back to Lionel twice to get everything fixed. I put it away and  had not run it in 2 years as my wife passed in 2021 and I have just recently gotten back into trains. Now it runs and whistles but does not chuff, smoke, or blow the “steam” when the whistle is blown - which was a really cool feature. I checked in with Butch at Charles Ro and he suggested I send it in to him said “Lionel won’t take it back now!” So I have it packed but have not sent it out yet. Repair will be at my expense. Keep ‘em running…

Those T&P F's should run fine with the Z-4000. Do they run ok on a new Lionel brick or Prehistoric ZW?

I bought the ABA F-7s from Gryzboski’s        ( hope I spelled that right) sent them back he said they ran on a ZW. Took the powered A to a friend’s and it ran on his ZW - I have not tried running  it again. Presently setting up a test Track and I will recheck it and see if I can find something it runs on. I own about 25 engines and all the others run oK on the Z4000.

Noticed an email about MTH GP7s with MOP buzz saw heralds, and Jenks blue. They are custom made for Berwyn’s Trains. May be of interest for you MOP fans.

@Griff Murphey posted:

Noticed an email about MTH GP7s with MOP buzz saw heralds, and Jenks blue. They are custom made for Berwyn’s Trains. May be of interest for you MOP fans.

Thank Griff. They will be a nice add into the MP Empire / fleet. I hope they last / are slow to arrive. Before I can commit, I’ll need $ recovery time after the Eagle arrives 🫢😮😵‍💫😳🤔   🤪🤪🤪

Eagle Reservations Have Closed !!!!!!!! 🫢

Standby only now !!! 🤔🤔🤔

🤗😉

@TrainBub posted:

Thank Griff. They will be a nice add into the MP Empire / fleet. I hope they last / are slow to arrive. Before I can commit, I’ll need $ recovery time after the Eagle arrives 🫢😮😵‍💫😳🤔   🤪🤪🤪

You ain’t the only one!

In case someone has missed the announcement - posting, GGD is doing another run of E7s. Included in the run are MP “AB” and T&P in Eagle paint And Jenks blue (yes - no T&P “B”s). This will fill in the missing model for power on our two roads. Both had a substantial number of units - MP 9/7, T&P 10. There were more of these than the subsequent E8.
I hope the Eagle buyers will “step up” for these models. 🤔🤔🤔  

Cheers !!!! 😉

Any dummy A’s in T&P?

@Griff Murphey posted:

Any dummy A’s in T&P?

Sorry Griff. Scott hasn’t done Any unpowered units for awhile.

If I remember correctly he stated that production cost of a dummy was about the same as for a powered unit.

Can you post the reservation form? I googled 3rd rail AND GGD, found some stuff but not O ga. E-7s.

@Griff Murphey posted:

If I remember correctly he stated that production cost of a dummy was about the same as for a powered unit.

Can you post the reservation form? I googled 3rd rail AND GGD, found some stuff but not O ga. E-7s.

Just go to www.3rdrail.com

@Griff Murphey posted:

If I remember correctly he stated that production cost of a dummy was about the same as for a powered unit.

Can you post the reservation form? I googled 3rd rail AND GGD, found some stuff but not O ga. E-7s.

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.htm

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservationGGD.htm

Thanks DJ, Vash44 !!!

Ok I’ve got one reserved - I guess I’ll be happy with a single!

@Griff Murphey posted:

Ok I’ve got one reserved - I guess I’ll be happy with a single!

Great to see you step up !!!!  
Keep in mind (for down the road) that eventually we will also see a re-run of E8s. I suspect that #s of MP and TP in run 1 were quite small - like run 1 MP E6. These in a new run will also reserve well because of the Eagles !!!!
This down the road offering would be a nice add for you. All in Good Time. In books, we Frequently see the 7s and 8s running together.
Cheers !!! 😉

@TrainBub posted:

Thanks DJ, Vash44 !!!

Anytime! Always happy to help with any consist that runs through St Louis or Chicago!

Just a MP comment on E7s and 8s. “B”s aren’t as popular as “A”s but MP had them with the 7s. No “B” 8s. 7s and 8s got mixed, 7Bs got used with 8s. Then later, throw in the Jenks repaints !!! You name a combination, it happened. Have some fun mixing these units. It sure makes for interesting consists.  🤔
Sometime down the road we’ll see Jenks passenger cars done to work into the mix too. 😜
Cheers !!! 😉

Heres a FYI for anyone that likes thru passenger cars. 🤔
MP/TP received cars at St. Louis Union Station from the east heading west but also sent their cars east. The offered extra car 5BR-Lounge was leased for awhile to the B&O and ran in Eagle paint with a B&O drumhead on the National Limited. MP 14-4 sleepers also headed east.
No one has offered a B&O National Ltd consist so I build a pseudo consist as well as possible off my 3rd Rail EA AB. The 14-4 and 5BR-L as an observation car substitute will offer a bit of a prototypical look to my made up consist. Sometimes we have to build out consists one car at a time.
Cheers !!! 😉

@TrainBub posted:

Heres a FYI for anyone that likes thru passenger cars. 🤔
MP/TP received cars at St. Louis Union Station from the east heading west but also sent their cars east. The offered extra car 5BR-Lounge was leased for awhile to the B&O and ran in Eagle paint with a B&O drumhead on the National Limited. MP 14-4 sleepers also headed east.
No one has offered a B&O National Ltd consist so I build a pseudo consist as well as possible off my 3rd Rail EA AB. The 14-4 and 5BR-L as an observation car substitute will offer a bit of a prototypical look to my made up consist. Sometimes we have to build out consists one car at a time.
Cheers !!! 😉

I thought that the B&O through sleeper was cancelled by GGD.  Or are you referring to a sleeper with MP lettering running on the B&O?

@Jtrain posted:

I thought that the B&O through sleeper was cancelled by GGD.  Or are you referring to a sleeper with MP lettering running on the B&O?

Yes. The GGD B&O car was canceled. However, MP lettered 14-4s ran on the National Limited from St. Louis Union Station to Washington DC. If you are interested, Texas Special / MKT and Frisco 14-4s did too and a Frisco Meteor 14-4 went past DC to Jersey City, NJ.  (Reference / Baltimore & Ohio Passenger Service, 1945-1971 Vol 1 The Route of the National Limited / Stegmaier, p. 20) However, These cars did eventually disappear as rail travel slowly died.

Although it’s not in the Eagle offering, don’t forget to reserve a MP Slumbercoach !!!!! Run 2 reservations must not be great or we’d have seen these by now. Give a look. MP hand only 1 but the B&O had several that ran on the Eagle. Consider reserving a B&O too.  
Here’s mine from run 1. It’s possible the Slumbercoach offering could be tacked onto another project to help Both reach needed critical #s to launch.
Email Scott that you’d like to see the Slumbercoach Sooner than later.
Cheers 😉

Great model! 👍☺️

@TrainBub posted:

Although it’s not in the Eagle offering, don’t forget to reserve a MP Slumbercoach !!!!! Run 2 reservations must not be great or we’d have seen these by now. Give a look. MP hand only 1 but the B&O had several that ran on the Eagle. Consider reserving a B&O too.  
Here’s mine from run 1. It’s possible the Slumbercoach offering could be tacked onto another project to help Both reach needed critical #s to launch.
Email Scott that you’d like to see the Slumbercoach Sooner than later.
Cheers 😉

Ok !!! Just announced !!!  
Slumbercoach offering is CLOSING  
July 10 !!!  Fence sitters know the drill !!!

MP = 1 name only
B&O = 3 Names that ran on the National Ltd into St Louis then continued on the Eagle

Cheers 😉

@TrainBub posted:

Ok !!! Just announced !!!  
Slumbercoach offering is CLOSING  
July 10 !!!  Fence sitters know the drill !!!

MP = 1 name only
B&O = 3 Names that ran on the National Ltd into St Louis then continued on the Eagle

Cheers 😉

Do you know the names of the B&O slumbercoaches that ran on the Eagle?

@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

Do you know the names of the B&O slumbercoaches that ran on the Eagle?

Restland
Sleepland    
Thriftland    
😉

Slumberland and Dreamland ran on the Capital.

Some FYIs.

Scott has added a E7 T&P “Jenks” to the reservations list. So now Both MP And T&P are available to reserve in “Jenks” blue.  No new T&P Jenks picture was added but the addition is noted with the MP Jenks picture. The Jenks differences would only be numbers and road symbols - buzzsaw vs diamond.

T&P did not have any E7 “B” units, only MP.

Be Aware ….. E8s will eventually be re-run. MP And T&P Did Not Have Any E8 “B”s. If you like “B” units, the MP E7 should be your reservation option.

Cheers 😉

Thanks. Anything T&P is worth considering if you are a hard core T&P guy like me. Appreciate the info!

@Griff Murphey posted:

Thanks. Anything T&P is worth considering if you are a hard core T&P guy like me. Appreciate the info!

I’m glad you appreciate the info Griff.

ALL these MP and T&P models have “fit” into my life. Everywhere I’ve lived, they’ve been there. St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, Denver, Lafayette-New Orleans.  So cool to be finally be getting these models very well done that have previously, mostly been ignored or not done very well !!!!!!!!

Real excited to see the cars guys! We are so fortunate to get these very special models. 🙂

Well folks. We’re getting Real Close !!!!! to seeing the Eagle arriving.  The Slumbercoaches should arrive at the same time (MP and B&O cars ran on the Eagle). If you didn’t reserve the Eagle, I Highly Recommend !!! putting in a “standby” reservation. You might get lucky. When people start posting pictures of their delivered models, I’m sure there will be regrets for those that didn’t commit to reservations. I’m Sure those that Did Commit will have some Really Big Smiles !!!!!!!!!!!  😜😜😜  

Cheers 😉

@Erik C Lindgren posted:

(NOTE...PHOTO DELETED DUE TO COPYRIGHT.)

The famous publicity photo of the "Colorado Eagle" led by new E7's circa 1947 posed in Colorado near Palmer Lake on the Joint Line. The train's accommodations at this time included five sleepers (10 roomettes/6 double-bedrooms [Denver-St. Louis], 6 section/6 roomettes/4 double-bedrooms [Denver - St. Louis], 14 roomettes/4 double-bedrooms [Denver - St. Louis], 6 sections/6 roomettes/4 bedrooms [St. Louis - Los Angeles in conjunction with the "Golden State"], 8 section/1 drawing room/3 double-bedrooms [Wichita - Denver], coaches, grill coach, "Planetarium Dome" coach, and diner-lounge.

I have a Coach Yard HO set fabulous model by Sam Tech, it’s an interesting mix of modernized heavyweight to then state of the art Budd domes. Scott, I might be persuaded. Be a legendary project. The porthole windows that were all over the train were the neat things other than that gorgeous paint scheme.

I’m back reading thru the Entire Eagle thread. Lots of great participation !!!!
Eric, rest assured there are ALL the prototypical portholes on the cars that had them !!!!
Cheers 😉

@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

What are the chances of getting Scott to do some Jenks blue add-on cars, coaches, domes, & sleepers? A few of us have asked and so far notta....

Well by now anyone that was interested knows that the Jenks cars were not added into the project. Overall, the project grew into perhaps Scotts most ambitious project so adding more Different types of cars and paint scheme became difficult to execute. Look at how many different type cars there are and of course all the different cars have their Proper interiors. There are no repeat names or numbers between MP and T&P. So a line was drawn and it was determined “that’s it”.
But……….
The 3rd Rail E6 Jenks was well received, there’s Jenks interest in this thread, and E7 MP And T&P Jenks are currently available to reserve in the latest E7 offering. (MP T&P E7 we’re not previously done because of the porthole windows.) We will eventually see another E8 run and it will include Eagle and Jenks paints schemes.

These Jenks passenger diesels just Cry Out for Jenks Passenger Cars. I Sure Want to See Them Done and I hope those that have previously shown interest are still wanting  to see some Jenks cars done. Don’t give up since they aren’t done Now. Email Scott again and let Him Know that you Want To See these MP and T&P cars offered !!! A Jenks E7 reservation speaks Loudly Too !!!

Looking Ahead !!! 😜    
Cheers 😉

MP E6 Eagle and Jenks Paint schemes.  

When you finally get to see the beautiful Eagle cars, I think you will want the Jenks cars too !!! 😜😉

While we wait for the Eagle to arrive, we have to be satisfied with a “local”. 😜 Cheers !!! 😉  
Oops wrong video.  I’ll try again  🤪🤪🤪

XXX Sorry XXX

NDM fans.  I’m curious …. Has anyone produced O Scale Mexican passenger cars before ?  Is the GGD NDM 10-6 a first ?  I can’t find any examples 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Don’t forget there were also NDM 10-5s that ran on the Eagle.  
And Don’t forget also the B&O and PRR 10-5s. I consider this unfinished Eagle business. Let Scott know you still want these 10-5s - ALL 3 roads !!!  As a reminder - B&O and PRR would be in Eagle paint , NDM will be green with orange strip.

Cheers😉

Did the T&P run any head end boxcars? Or other cars? Looking to complete my Texas Eagle if there's anything else out there?

Can't wait to get my 12 Eagle cars.

Several have been made. Atlas did a gorgeous Pullman green wooden express box issued in two numbers I think. There  have been several made in Eagle coooes all standard 40 foot AAR standard boxcars notably with the first O gauge Eagle set of clerestory roof passenger cars done by collectible Toys and trains, MTH, and I think Even Atlas did some too. Lionel made an operating one in kind of O-27 “scale” and a much more scale appearing double door one.