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Hi All,

I'm not really big into the postwar trains, I'm more into newer, scale-sized O-gauge offerings.  With one exception: I really like the postwar Lionel single-dome metal tank cars.  I'm referring to the 2555/2855/6555 series produced for a handful of years after the war.  Except for the dome on the tank, they are basically all metal construction, so they have some heft.

Due to the tremendous variety of prototype tank car sizes produced between the wars, these Lionel cars can easily be considered 1/48 scale, at least in my opinion.  The few add-on details are metal and quite durable, unlike molded plastic details on other brands, which can and do break and flake off simply by sticking your tongue out and making a face at them (don't ask me how I know  ).

Another thing I really like, is the price I paid for these.  I now have 3 of these tank cars, paying $15 for the first one at a hobby shop, and $10 each for my last two (one at a train show, and the last at a another hobby shop).  All three were in quite decent physical condition when aquired, albeit cosmetically rough, dusty, and grimy.  But hey, for $10 or $15 each, I'll definitely pick up more when I stumble across deals like that!

Since the late steam/early diesel era is my favorite era, and I like newer manufactured scale-sized equipment, it only makes sense to bring these old tank cars up to date in order to blend in with the newer stuff.  Pretty easy to do, just clean them up, paint and decal them, and replace the old post war trucks with new trucks.  As two of my three tank cars are not done yet, I thought it might be a good time to share a few pictures.

 

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Above is a pic. of my latest $10 tank car a few days after I bought it, shown along with my first PW tank car, which has been re-done and finished.

 

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And here's another shot of that latest $10 tank car.  At this point, I have replaced the original postwar trucks with new Lionel trucks.  Notice the yellowed and dis-colored decals, which apparently a lot of these old postwar tank cars suffer from.  Kinda' makes them not worth much, from a collector's standpoint.  But sure helps me out a lot!  

 

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Here's my second of three tank cars.  The tank has been wire-brushed and along with the plastic dome, has been prime painted gray.  Although hard to see in this shot, I have added placard sign brackets and corner stirrups (steps) to the frame.  Ready for finish painting.

 

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Speaking a adding a few extra little parts if necessary, here's most of them.  The 2555 and 6555 tank cars, according to information I found, and observed on the cars I bought, did not come with a complete set of placard sign brackets, nor any corner stirrups at all.  I make extra placard brackets by cutting out some sheet brass (7/32" square) and soldering on some 1/32" x 1/16" brass bars for the posts.  Virtually a perfect press fit in the existing frame holes.  For the stirrups, a box of Arrow T50 1/2" staples provide more than a life-time supply.  Just have to squeeze them down a tad in width, drop them in the frame holes, and add a tiny little sliver of wood to wedge them in place.  Not shown: Replacement brake cylinders.  I use brake cylinders removed from Menard's and WbB boxcars, because they hang down too far and thus look silly, at least in my opinion.

 

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And finally here's my very first PW metal tank car which I purchased approximately 3 years ago.  All cleaned up with new trucks, primed, painted, decal'd, and in service on the layout.  Actually, it's been done for a few years now, anyway.  I was quite happy with the way it turned out, and hope the remaining two turn out just as well.  I'm probably going to paint and decal them in the same scheme with different road numbers.

It's been a reasonably easy, straightforward process to fix up and modernize these tank cars.  Painting them is cheap and easy, too.  Inexpensive Walmart flat black and primer gray rattle-can spray paints are used for priming and painting, and Krylon gloss clear and matte clear are used for the decal under & over coats.

Just thought I'd share with you.  Hope you have enjoyed this little excursion into my somewhat low-buck and slightly frugal world of 3-rail O-gauge model railroading. 

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Mixed Freight posted:
RailRide posted:

Have a wee bit of "Image Not Found" in the...pretty much the entire post there.

---PCJ

  Odd. They show up for me.

Try downloading the images to your computer, then upload them to OGR using the add attachments link below the typing space. If you are linking from another site they won't be visible to the rest of us.

Pete

Norton posted:
Mixed Freight posted:
RailRide posted:

Have a wee bit of "Image Not Found" in the...pretty much the entire post there.

---PCJ

  Odd. They show up for me.

Try downloading the images to your computer, then upload them to OGR using the add attachments link below the typing space. If you are linking from another site they won't be visible to the rest of us.

Pete

Thanks Pete, but the images ARE on my computer.  They are not linked from another site.  I did use the "add attachment" link below the typing space.  I'll see if I can figure something out.  If not, I'll simply delete the whole topic. 

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Nicely done Paul. Like you I also learned all of the various metal single dome cars are the same except for the added details. Any post war car can be turned into any other post war version by adding or subtracting details and using the appropiate decals and paint. Fabricating the details is a nice touch but you can also buy them all from the repro parts guys.

Pete

Paul, I think your modernized Postwar tank are an example of acquiring and creating very nice trains for very little money by scrounging, which can be a lot of fun. These rusty tankers can often be found underneath the tables at train shows, and can be purchased for as little as $5. 

I have 3 of those same Postwar tank cars shown in the photograph below:

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Modernizing them the way you have done looks great, but I also like mine, with their rust, "as is."

I particularly like oil tank car unit trains. Arnold

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Norton posted:

Nicely done Paul. Like you I also learned all of the various metal single dome cars are the same except for the added details. Any post war car can be turned into any other post war version by adding or subtracting details and using the appropiate decals and paint. Fabricating the details is a nice touch but you can also buy them all from the repro parts guys.

Pete

Thanks Pete.  I don't mind fabricating spare parts if they're simple and don't take too long.  Heck, I'd be fine with repro parts, but I never seem to have the part I need when I figure out I need it. 

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Paul, I think your modernized Postwar tank are an example of acquiring and creating very nice trains for very little money by scrounging, which can be a lot of fun. These rusty tankers can often be found underneath the tables at train shows, and can be purchased for as little as $5. 

I have 3 of those same Postwar tank cars shown in the photograph below:

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Modernizing them the way you have done looks great, but I also like mine, with their rust, "as is."

I particularly like oil tank car unit trains. Arnold

Thanks Arnold.  While I like the challenge of making new from old, I also enjoy watching your unit tank trains (complete with original patina) going through the paces too! 

And just because I'm not overly into postwar trains, doesn't mean that I don't like them.  I do.  I enjoy seeing what you and others do with them.  Hush, don't tell anybody, but I've actually bought a few books and magazines featuring postwar trains, just to learn more about them!   

Paul,

Very nice work and thanks for getting the pictures fixed. great idea on the staples.

I also like these and look for them at shows, but I tend to go for the 2 and 3 dome versions if I can find them. What do you use to get the decals off?  I have tried several things but no perfect solution yet!

These are Tichy decals and original trucks as you can tell.  Tichy also has warning sign decals,  I plan to add to these too.  This N&W car is imaginary more or less but I almost have a unit train of them now (which for my layout is about 8-10 cars plus a caboose).  Hey, that makes it official doesn't it?

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hokie71 posted:

Paul,

Very nice work and thanks for getting the pictures fixed. great idea on the staples.

I also like these and look for them at shows, but I tend to go for the 2 and 3 dome versions if I can find them. What do you use to get the decals off?  I have tried several things but no perfect solution yet!

These are Tichy decals and original trucks as you can tell.  Tichy also has warning sign decals,  I plan to add to these too.  This N&W car is imaginary more or less but I almost have a unit train of them now (which for my layout is about 8-10 cars plus a caboose).  Hey, that makes it official doesn't it?

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Thanks Hokie71, glad you like my work.  Happy to share.

I actually use the staples on a lot of other freight cars, too.  Either as is, or I will re-bend them to a different shape.  You have to drill new holes in most cases to mount them (sometimes that can be a challenge).  And you have to make sure your trucks will clear them, which they usually do.  But they can be close!

Removing the old, yellowed and discolored decals from my single dome cars is easy.  The tank is a rolled piece of sheet metal with stamped steel ends, so I can use a 6" bench grinder out in my garage.  I have a  wire brush mounted on one side instead of a grinding wheel.  The wire brush makes short work of it.  Warning: Don't try wire brushing a plastic tank car! instead of making short work of the decals you'll make short work of the plastic body! 

Yes!  Nice 3-dome tank car you have there.  I also have some of them because I like them too, along with a few 2-dome cars.  On my 3-dome cars, I razor-saw off the molded-on plastic stirrups, then add wire staples after drilling mounting holes.  I also razor-saw off those funky looking vent things from the domes.  From studying prototype pictures, I get the feeling they were the oddball exception and not the mainstream norm.  And of course, the postwar trucks are swapped out for new Bettendorf trucks.

Just can't have enough tank cars and box cars for pre 1970's era trains! 

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