The rolls of sill sealer are for wedging between bottom beam of a wall section and the foundation plate, usually 6 inches or so wide and 50 foot rolls for about $10. I doubled it in spots where I butted my tables together. I used 2'x5', 3'x4' and 3'x5' tables to form my base using 1x3 pine frames and 2x4 studs for the legs, with multi-ply 3/4" tops, I knew I would be walking on it, so built it for my 250 pounds of dead weight. The sealer compresses well and so far, after 3 years, kept the wood from making noise.
I think what I'm going to need is weatherstripping. The beams on the Mianne benchwork are only 3/4" wide, so what I am looking at is the one sided sticky weatherstripping rolls. I'll stick it to the benchwork beams and then just lay the plywood on top of it. I just want it to keep the plywood from rattling against the beams.
That will work John, I needed 2.5 inch wide strips for between the benches so I just doubled the sealer and stapled it every 12-15" then screwed the benches together.
gunrunnerjohn posted:I think what I'm going to need is weatherstripping. The beams on the Mianne benchwork are only 3/4" wide, so what I am looking at is the one sided sticky weatherstripping rolls. I'll stick it to the benchwork beams and then just lay the plywood on top of it. I just want it to keep the plywood from rattling against the beams.
That's probably a pretty good idea. I didn't think of weather strip, but I did have a couple of places where the top had a very small gap between it and the Mianne frame. This was in places where there were no legs and I only had enough brackets to fasten to the legs, so I ordered some extra brackets and screws from Tim and all was well. My sandply probably wasn't as flat/level as your Baltic birch either, but still the extra brackets may provide added stability and cut down on any extra vibrations.
rtr12 postedMy sandply probably wasn't as flat/level as your Baltic birch either, but still the extra brackets may provide added stability and cut down on any extra vibrations.
Guys, not all vibrations are bad.
John, how about a strip of weather stripping like they put between a truck and camper shell? Adhesive on one side and foam rubber on the other. I wish I had done that but I also put additional 90 deg mounting brackets anywhere I thought they would do some good. I got metal ones from Lowes but I bet they have the same basic type Mianne uses.
Weather stripping is actually what I'm considering.
The saga continues. A little 2 foot "bump out" was added on one end, and the plywood is going on. 
I may yet get to run trains on this...
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Looking good John and much bigger with some of the plywood down.
Yep, it suddenly looks like it doubled in size. Now, if that were only reality... 
Of course, it did get two feet longer, I went around the poles... 
I think it does look bigger with the top going on. Starting to take shape now and looking good!
If I can only get the splinters out of my fingers, all will be well. The Hemasote is sitting in the garage, that goes on when the top is finished.
Good night John! ....that is a nice size...great work!....now can we get the loop off the floor?...........Pat
Well, the loop is off the floor, so I have to get cracking on laying track! A few steps to go before that, but it's coming...
That will be a very nice layout John, half the fun is making changes on the fly when finally do start laying track down:-P
Looking good John
Alex
GRJ, if your going to glue down your Homasote, 12" x 12" flooring tiles work great for weight to hold it flat til the glue dries. Check with your friends and neighbors they may have some left over from a project. Most contractors leave extra behind just in case a repair is needed down the road. You can also find them very cheap when a style is discontinued.
Love watching these all come together. Exciting!
John
my offer is still open. if you need specialized bridges or structures laser cut. I'd be happy to do it for you. You have given me ( and others) so many great "electronic" stuff it's the least I can do.
Looking great John.
Thanks all for the comments, and of course for the offer of any assistance!
I already know my track plan will be undergoing a lot of alterations now, I've expanded at one end, and some new ideas have surfaced about the traffic flow. I'm also doing a bit more to plan for the yard that will be added next.
Dave, the glue we're using is something Tom uses all the time for layouts, it's a once and done product. You drop the sheet in place and it's there for the duration! I'm getting more psyched about finally having a layout again!
Good going GUNS!!!!! Keep on keepin on.
One more step, I just humped the Hemasote from the garage around to the basement, I'm sitting in front of the fan cooling off.
The downside of getting older John, we have the time, it is the gumption to get the heavy haulin done we stumble on, now is when a grandson or nephew or neighbor kid with a strong back would be good.
I should have gotten my grandson over to help, he's big enough to husk them around now.
Hemasote? Drew blood?
Officially hump day now!😂
gunrunnerjohn posted:Thanks all for the comments, and of course for the offer of any assistance!
I already know my track plan will be undergoing a lot of alterations now, I've expanded at one end, and some new ideas have surfaced about the traffic flow. I'm also doing a bit more to plan for the yard that will be added next.
Dave, the glue we're using is something Tom uses all the time for layouts, it's a once and done product. You drop the sheet in place and it's there for the duration! I'm getting more psyched about finally having a layout again!
This is causing me to want to tear up my layout and rebuild it. I mostly enjoyed building the layout, running it is fun, but building it is the most fun.
gunrunnerjohn posted:The saga continues. A little 2 foot "bump out" was added on one end, and the plywood is going on.
Was there a sale on clamps that I missed ?
Lookin' good, John.
Gunrunner, the platform for your new layout is looking really good. I look forward to seeing some trains run and how are your going to control your trains. Will you be using Legacy and DCS? Also, will you be controlling your trains Via IPad and or IPhone? I look forward to seeing you at York in October. Keep posting those great pictures. Happy Railroading
"Was there a sale on clamps that I missed ? "
Now I know why I couldn't find any at the hardware store the other day. John cleaned out the supply.
More cutting and fitting, doesn't look like much, but it's coming.
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Farmer_Bill posted:Hemasote? Drew blood?
Well, the spell checker can't spell Homasote either, so I don't notice when I type the wrong thing. 
Looking good.....I’ll have use all your techniques....if you don’t mind...lol
Nessmuck posted:Looking good.....I’ll have use all your techniques....if you don’t mind...lol
Use away!
Richie C. posted:gunrunnerjohn posted:The saga continues. A little 2 foot "bump out" was added on one end, and the plywood is going on.
Was there a sale on clamps that I missed ?
Lookin' good, John.
No, and we ran out of clamps, bringing more tomorrow.
One of the neat things about working with John is anytime I suggest to push the layout edge out here or add a bump out on over there his only response was "OK".
However, he was a bit hesitant to let me take a notch out of the basement door to clear the expanded benchwork. I figure I'll just swap in a smaller door and pack out the jamb when he's not looking.
leapinlarry posted:Gunrunner, the platform for your new layout is looking really good. I look forward to seeing some trains run and how are your going to control your trains. Will you be using Legacy and DCS? Also, will you be controlling your trains Via IPad and or IPhone? I look forward to seeing you at York in October. Keep posting those great pictures. Happy Railroading
I'll be running Legacy/TMCC and DCS, and I do have both the WiFi adapters from the two makers. I will be using LCS at some point. I will also be able to switch in for conventional on the mainlines, I'll probably keep the Z-4000 on tap for that feature. I have the Z-4000 remote receiver, and I can control that from the DCS remote.
Tom's giving all my layout building secrets away. Actually, I only have one real secret. I invite Tom over to do the heavy lifting! I'm the guy that gets to crawl under and hold things.
Great Progress John. It’s coming along nicely. Nice to see a master at work.
Andy
Steamfan77 posted:Great Progress John. It’s coming along nicely. Nice to see a master at work.
Andy
Well, the "master" is the guy in the background that's busy working while I'm goldbricking. I'd be lost without his guidance.
Tom Tee posted:The rest of the clamps were tied up:
And there are those missing clamps!
