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@20centuryhudson posted:Can you please repost says images not found
Ok. Try again. I reloaded them.
Sweet!
@CentralFan1976 posted:
The new grab irons are incredibly thin, the new steps are very nice and the lettering is stencil perfect; even the build date and end numbers.
Thanks!
- Mario
Mario, I think that the chain does it for me. That is one heck of a detail. Almost expect it to swing about(does it).
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Mario, I think that the chain does it for me. That is one heck of a detail. Almost expect it to swing about(does it).
Sure does!
Shouldn’t the grab irons be white on the B&A and yellow on the NYC— I guess they can be popped off and painted
@20centuryhudson posted:Shouldn’t the grab irons be white on the B&A and yellow on the NYC— I guess they can be popped off and painted
They weren’t painted yellow until about 1940, and at that time there were some other changes that the New York Central forced upon them. We’ve done a model that is as built from the Oswego shops in 1916. I may be a little bit selfish, but we didn’t want them to be just a re-brand of what our other custom run was going to look like. Which is a replica of the chapter caboose at the New York State Fairgrounds. Other changes that will happen later in life, would be black roof and the NYCS oval. Our research indicates that they stay this way at least through 1924, What is called a dip scheme. One of the biggest things we found in our research was that the Boston i& Albany had them delivered unlettered, and purposely made their stencil 1 inch larger than the standard NYC lettering drawings of the time.
Thanks!
- Mario
Thanks for the Info Mario!! Looking forward to receiving them— thanks for doing this project! What is the other custom run you mentioned?
@20centuryhudson posted:Thanks for the Info Mario!! Looking forward to receiving them— thanks for doing this project! What is the other custom run you mentioned?
Phil @JR Junction Train & Hobby also did our Central NY Chapter caboose, also from the same era and built at the NYC’s Oswego shops, as you can tell by the horizontal grab irons on the ends. As far as we can tell, Oswego was the only shop to build them this way and we’re used to hold on while hanging the rear markers.
He’s done the Rochester Museum’s caboose, as well.
Email me from my profile and I’ll share the photos we purchased for reference as to the painting of the B&A cabooses.
Thanks!
- Mario
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@20centuryhudson posted:Thanks for the Info Mario!! Looking forward to receiving them— thanks for doing this project! What is the other custom run you mentioned?
Oh, and…
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Regardless of paint changes over time, these are dang stunning to behold. I can't wait for my bill to come, pay, and wait until when they arrive. Out of the ballpark with these.
@CentralFan1976 posted:Oh, and…
Love how MTH got the headlight correct, unlike Lionel.
But MTH used to darken the running gear, they don't anymore? I kind of like it the old way.
Anyway, thankyou MTH and JR Junction. My wait for a correct B&A caboose is over.
Mario — thanks— is that central NY chapter caboose in your picture available anywhere in 3rail? Thanks!
@superwarp1 posted:Love how MTH got the headlight correct, unlike Lionel.
Anyway, thankyou MTH and JR Junction. My wait for a correct B&A caboose is over.
The satin nickel side rods are legit, and the #5266 was polished up for the occasion.
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@20centuryhudson posted:Mario — thanks— is that central NY chapter caboose in your picture available anywhere in 3rail? Thanks!
They are! Give Phil @JR Junction Train & Hobby a call at (315) 451-6551 or check his wensite here: https://jrjunction.com/product...9-nyc-caboose-19144/
They just came in yesterday and he was busy filling orders when I arrived.
Thanks!
- Mario
@CentralFan1976 posted:The satin nickel side rods are legit, and the #5266 was polished up for the occasion.
Ok, understand, thanks
Phil called me a bit ago to let me know my order was in. Since I'm at work, I couldn't give info over the phone so I shot him a reply back to my order confirmation.
I just have to make sure it got through on Phil's end.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Phil called me a bit ago to let me know my order was in. Since I'm at work, I couldn't give info over the phone so I shot him a reply back to my order confirmation.
I just have to make sure it got through on Phil's end.
Ditto, took several tries to get through. I couldn't resist and up my order.
Should have them by this weekend. Time for a video. B&A berks double headed with Caboose galore in the rear.
Now we have to wait for the A1's if they ever get made.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Now we have to wait for the A1's if they ever get made.
Don't get me going.
Wish @Dave Olson or someone at Lionel would comment on the Berks.
@superwarp1 posted:Don't get me going.
New tooling for the early Berk and the Pennsy A5 is being cut now. We won't have an updated delivery timeline until we finish the tooling and get samples made.
Turn that frown upside down. 
@Dave Olson posted:New tooling for the early Berk and the Pennsy A5 is being cut now. We won't have an updated delivery timeline until we finish the tooling and get samples made.
Turn that frown upside down.
@Dave Olson regarding the A5, will the tooling be updated to make this a highly detailed model consistent with other legacy locomotives, rather than the previous incarnations with very little added on detail?
@Dave Olson posted:New tooling for the early Berk and the Pennsy A5 is being cut now. We won't have an updated delivery timeline until we finish the tooling and get samples made.
Turn that frown upside down.
Lionel has them 3/2024, so maybe longer. So you have to do new tooling, Whoooaaa. Milk cars all over again.
The Kline tooling they used was just fine
@20centuryhudson posted:The Kline tooling they used was just fine
For the Berk, Yes.... but I wasn't talking about the Berk. For the A5 0-4-0, it was mostly cast-in detail, missing many other details altogether, lacking valve gear, and oversized as well. Ok for a lionchief I guess, but the MTH A5 blows it away.
@20centuryhudson posted:The Kline tooling they used was just fine
Fine, indeed! One of my favorites; the whole reason why I’ve purchased the B&A cabooses was to have one to run with this grand lady.
@Dave Olson posted:New tooling for the early Berk and the Pennsy A5 is being cut now. We won't have an updated delivery timeline until we finish the tooling and get samples made.
Turn that frown upside down.
Thanks for the update on the Berk Dave. I can't wait to see what the Mr. Muffin's A1 Berk run is like. I wonder if when you get some of the samples would you have a highlight of it on Demos with Dave? I guess we will see. Hope all is well.
@superwarp1 posted:Ditto, took several tries to get through. I couldn't resist and up my order.
I ordered all 4 offerings. Got the shipping/tracking info, so that should arrive most likely next week for me since it is Thursday already. I really doubt it would be able to be here by Saturday.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I ordered all 4 offerings. Got the shipping/tracking info, so that should arrive most likely next week for me since it is Thursday already. I really doubt it would be able to be here by Saturday.
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Yeah, Phil was definitely busy getting all the orders shipped out. Late last night he emailed me back which wasn't a surprise considering how busy all these cabooses would make him besides whatever else he had going on. I will have to wait like I said, but will be one happy railroader when all four arrive. It'll be my first B&A cabooses too boot.
Great thread awesome cabooses and hudsons for that matter.
Can someone post or send me a link to the thread with the actual photos of the NYC cabooses?
I know I saw them somewhere, but cannot find them.
@RickO posted:Great thread awesome cabooses and hudsons for that matter.
Can someone post or send me a link to the thread with the actual photos of the NYC cabooses?
I know I saw them somewhere, but cannot find them.
This is one Phil did, located near Rochester, NY.
https://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad/nyc19877/
Pete
@Norton posted:This is one Phil did, located near Rochester, NY.
https://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad/nyc19877/
Pete
Thanks Pete, that IS interesting, but I should have clarified. I was looking for the actual Mth custom run caboose photos
@RickO posted:Thanks Pete, that IS interesting, but I should have clarified. I was looking for the actual Mth custom run caboose photos
You don't mean the photos on page 5 right Rick? You're saying on another topic altogether?
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:You don't mean the photos on page 5 right Rick? You're saying on another topic altogether?
I could be mistaken, I thought there were more full photos of the NYC version but that caboose is sharp.
I especially like the lantern detail improvement.
I have a couple of the original MTH offerings, but these are even better. I might have to grab the pair.
@RickO posted:I could be mistaken, I thought there were more full photos of the NYC version but that caboose is sharp.
I especially like the lantern detail improvement.
I have a couple of the original MTH offerings, but these are even better. I might have to grab the pair.
I’ll just post them here… all good stuff!
as well as one from Phil…
thanks!
- Mario
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Perfect. Thanks Mario!
Mario, you devil. I wish there was more of them to buy, but having bought all four offerings, what am I supposed to do, lol.
Beautiful! That's the one I got - NYC 19144. Probably should have got both numbers but trying to get away from that type of thinking, ha.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Mario, you devil. I wish there was more of them to buy, but having bought all four offerings, what am I supposed to do, lol.
I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth, but I will say that I wouldn’t be surprised more numbers if MTH were to do another run.
Thanks for your support! It proves that we have to stick together and support our local hobby shops to get more successful custom runs.
- Mario
