Unfortunately, both circuits are on the same phase. I guess I have a couple options. I could either plug the track power into the other phase, and do a shared neutral, or I could add a second neutral and solve the problem that way. I'll figure it out.
Nothing wrong with a shared neutral Elliot. The National Electrical code allows it, you just need to put the two circuits on a two-pole breaker. From a train and electronics perspective, I would pull the second neutral to minimize noise.
Bob
Today I am correcting a senior moment. Before I laid down the cork I screwed in two screws to hold the plywood in place between the tables. Well after laying cork, painting cork, and adding some plaster I neglected to remember where the two screws are. So I will be scrapping off some plaster and taking up a small section of cork to find them. Later today I hope to get to track laying. And Elliot, don't put yourself down over the electrical. You are resolving your problems as you go along not after everything is done. Hang in there you are well ahead on the plus side......Paul
paul 2 posted:Today I am correcting a senior moment. Before I laid down the cork I screwed in two screws to hold the plywood in place between the tables. Well after laying cork, painting cork, and adding some plaster I neglected to remember where the two screws are. So I will be scrapping off some plaster and taking up a small section of cork to find them. Later today I hope to get to track laying. And Elliot, don't put yourself down over the electrical. You are resolving your problems as you go along not after everything is done. Hang in there you are well ahead on the plus side......Paul
Search with a magnet (or stud finder)
paul 2 posted:LUVINDEMTRAINS, my attic layout does not have much in the way of backdrops on the upper level except at each end I placed a 2' X 8' piece of Masonite over the top half of the windows at each end and painted a mural. The rest of the upper level was right at the point where the roof slopes up in the attic. Between the upper and lower level I had begun adding some type of scenery to hide the walls and studs. The section I am doing now is the sides of an engine shed glued end to end to make a long building. The layout I started in the basement has 2' high Masonite on the wall around the layout. Here I am adding building flats in O and HO. Couple of pics................Paul
PAUL 2,
I appreciate your explanation for your backdrop project. Looks like it is really taking shape.
Threw away my first three attempts at an ice fall. 
briansilvermustang posted:
I've watched that till I throw up... 
did you see this one........ https://youtu.be/zaO5-gpZJ6I
briansilvermustang posted:did you see this one........ https://youtu.be/zaO5-gpZJ6I
Uh huh 
Been watching alot of them for days. Will keep trying.
Over the past several weeks, I worked on the second part of the Rico Station kit bash. I bought a poorly assembled Rico from an H0 friend who had no use for it. My first project turned the freight section into the Morrison Doors warehouse. The latest project is on the passenger section and I hope to rent it out to a restauranteur. I removed the windowless wall and installed a stone faced wall. I removed the dated ginger bread trim from the roof updated (painted) the shingle roof & painted/repaired the concrete around the station. I installed Woodland Scenics window glazing. One of the plastic roof supports was missing and I made one out of basswood. I added some vines and ground cover at the bottom of the new stone end wall. The last picture shows its probable final location across the tracks from the old freight section. Landscaping and electricity are next on the list.
Nice one! 
TedW posted:briansilvermustang posted:did you see this one........ https://youtu.be/zaO5-gpZJ6I
Uh huh
.....and fish that stuff out of the garbage. Let it fully cure clear so you can see your good and bad within it.
Ive not used Woodland's, but know that stuff doesn't turn clear for days to weeks depending on brand and thickness.
Terry L posted:Worked on the city today
Do you mold the stone wall/panels? How do think you will finish the rest of the two walls you have?
the stone panel are latex from an earlier project. The other areas will be carved plaster rocks.
Adriatic posted:TedW posted:briansilvermustang posted:did you see this one........ https://youtu.be/zaO5-gpZJ6I
Uh huh
.....and fish that stuff out of the garbage. Let it fully cure clear so you can see your good and bad within it.
Ive not used Woodland's, but know that stuff doesn't turn clear for days to weeks depending on brand and thickness.
Thx for the encouragement 
, but the white is mixed in pigment, so won't be clear, will just let that stuff go. That's really the challenge, to get the color of the ice fall I want correct to my tired old eyes at least... I've done some more 3"x12" sections of clear and pigment. Three in center are pigmented, other three haven't cured clear yet. May overlay or just paint highlights on the clear sections. We'll see how it goes.
Just a few of the ideas out there.
One issue with speed reading is you have to choose which words are useful and ignore the rest. ICE was the key word and I missed that.
Ice like that is an intersting challenge, harder than liquid water. I would think layers of clear should be built up over streaks of white/ lt.blue,/grey and tiniest mists of black spatter for crevices & bubbles (spray). Like an ice sickle or ice cube, white-ish in the center, clear at the edges.
I only watched one minute of this, its 37min. long.
Im posting it now on looks alone.
By "Lizard Landscapes" (not trains)
Copy paste doesnt work for me here anymore.
Lets try.this https://youtube.com/watch?v=Flggwkpx1rl
Ice waterfall- How to build DIY. That is the title, you will have to search.
By Lizard landscapes
LizardLandscapes
I hate "smart devices".... So stupid. Never work right.
I walked around the basement RR looking for missing parts and defects. Yesterday was my turn to host the D3R meet. so today was find everything wrong with the layout so I can fix it this week. We had a good meet, first train was running before four o clock and the last one shut down I think eleven o clock or later. We had a great time, sorry I don't have photos, having to much fun to mess with camera. 
Clem
Adriatic posted:LizardLandscapes
I hate "smart devices".... So stupid. Never work right.
Thx, I found the videos, and watched the two on winter waterfalls, including the one with the pump. The proselytizing in the middle during the "intermission" was interesting. But I did learn some tips and certainly the technique of foam cutting and building.
A knock came to my door yesterday at noon. It was the little boy next door whose was turning 11 yesterday. He was having an outdoor party later that afternoon and wanted to know if he could bring his friends over to see my trains. My heart sunk, for I was getting ready to leave for a business meeting which was going until 7 p.m. I told him I was so very sorry and that I would get back home until 7:15. He said that his party would be long over by then.
At 7:15, as I pulled into my driveway, kids on bicycles rode up alongside my car as others ran alongside. It turns out that they waited for me to come home so they could all see the trains. I opened the back door to my house, welcomed the kids in, and the birthday boy led his friends directly to my train room. The kids, boys and girls ranging from 18 mos. - 12 years old , eyes as big a saucers, were so totally captivated by the trains. They stayed for about an hour and would have stayed longer but their parents came to round them up to go home.
You can't tell me that todays kids don't love trains...... because they do!! All of them wanted to come back again and everyone enthusiastically thanked me for showing them the trains. I was deeply touched.
trumptrain posted:A knock came to my door yesterday at noon. It was the little boy next door whose was turning 11 yesterday. He was having an outdoor party later that afternoon and wanted to know if he could bring his friends over to see my trains. My heart sunk, for I was getting ready to leave for a business meeting which was going until 7 p.m. I told him I was so very sorry and that I would get back home until 7:15. He said that his party would be long over by then.
At 7:15, as I pulled into my driveway, kids on bicycles rode up alongside my car as others ran alongside. It turns out that they waited for me to come home so they could all see the trains. I opened the back door to my house, welcomed the kids in, and the birthday boy led his friends directly to my train room. The kids, boys and girls ranging from 18 mos. - 12 years old , eyes as big a saucers, were so totally captivated by the trains. They stayed for about an hour and would have stayed longer but their parents came to round them up to go home.
You can't tell me that todays kids don't love trains...... because they do!! All of them wanted to come back again and everyone enthusiastically thanked me for showing them the trains. I was deeply touched.
That's awesome Patrick. You're right about kids and trains. They just don't know they like them till they see them in action.
Bob
TedW posted:Adriatic posted:LizardLandscapes
I hate "smart devices".... So stupid. Never work right.
Thx, I found the videos, and watched the two on winter waterfalls, including the one with the pump. The proselytizing in the middle during the "intermission" was interesting. But I did learn some tips and certainly the technique of foam cutting and building.
Looks like I was smart to mention I hadn't watched it all. Still haven't.
Oh,well. One loop around the layout ought to be enough to "deprogram" one viewing out of us anyhow. 
RSJB18 posted:Unfortunately, both circuits are on the same phase. I guess I have a couple options. I could either plug the track power into the other phase, and do a shared neutral, or I could add a second neutral and solve the problem that way. I'll figure it out.
Nothing wrong with a shared neutral Elliot. The National Electrical code allows it, you just need to put the two circuits on a two-pole breaker. From a train and electronics perspective, I would pull the second neutral to minimize noise.
Bob
Yeah Bob, I wired my entire house. Actually, you don't use double pole breakers with a common neutral, unless the code has changed since 2000. I have the circuits wired with single poles, but they are stacked so they are on opposing phases. That way they work independently.
There is another possibility, and that is something came loose or became exposed when I stuffed everything back in the box, causing an intermittent short. Putting a second neutral in the pipe, will not be an easy task. I'll have to get out the pulling compound and lube it up, then just push slowly. At least it's just a couple 90's and a few joints, about 25 feet.
trumptrain posted:A knock came to my door yesterday at noon. It was the little boy next door whose was turning 11 yesterday. He was having an outdoor party later that afternoon and wanted to know if he could bring his friends over to see my trains. My heart sunk, for I was getting ready to leave for a business meeting which was going until 7 p.m. I told him I was so very sorry and that I would get back home until 7:15. He said that his party would be long over by then.
At 7:15, as I pulled into my driveway, kids on bicycles rode up alongside my car as others ran alongside. It turns out that they waited for me to come home so they could all see the trains. I opened the back door to my house, welcomed the kids in, and the birthday boy led his friends directly to my train room. The kids, boys and girls ranging from 18 mos. - 12 years old , eyes as big a saucers, were so totally captivated by the trains. They stayed for about an hour and would have stayed longer but their parents came to round them up to go home.
You can't tell me that todays kids don't love trains...... because they do!! All of them wanted to come back again and everyone enthusiastically thanked me for showing them the trains. I was deeply touched.
Very nice of you to do that! Kids do love trains.
Pat,
Great that you hosted the kids. It's important to pass on the fun of model trains. You may have created some future modelers.
TedW posted:briansilvermustang posted:did you see this one........ https://youtu.be/zaO5-gpZJ6I
Uh huh
Ted,
Yes I think that is one of the toughest scenic items to make convincing. I have no photographs of my attempts years back, but that's not bad, they wouldn't help. I encourage you to keep at it.
Matt,
The kitbash Rico Station is looking good and it is looking good positioned on your layout!!
DECOYNH, nice job of the Rico kit bash. Today for me is moving along. Last night I found the two screws that were hidden. With suggestions which I couldn't use because I didn't have a magnet and I couldn't find my stud finder I took up cork in spots and finally found the screw which I moved to another spot in the open to find it. So with the new pieces painted I started bending track this morning. Have to break away for a bit to cut grass. Then I can get back to the track. Pic of the start. Just somewhat bent. Still have to fine tune it slowly. I don't want to kink it......Paul
Mark & Paul thanks for the comments.
Looking good there Paul. Will be nice to see it after you get everything bent and in place!
decoynh posted:Over the past several weeks, I worked on the second part of the Rico Station kit bash. I bought a poorly assembled Rico from an H0 friend who had no use for it. My first project turned the freight section into the Morrison Doors warehouse. The latest project is on the passenger section and I hope to rent it out to a restauranteur. I removed the windowless wall and installed a stone faced wall. I removed the dated ginger bread trim from the roof updated (painted) the shingle roof & painted/repaired the concrete around the station. I installed Woodland Scenics window glazing. One of the plastic roof supports was missing and I made one out of basswood. I added some vines and ground cover at the bottom of the new stone end wall. The last picture shows its probable final location across the tracks from the old freight section. Landscaping and electricity are next on the list.
Decoynh, Things sure did turn out nice! Way to make 2 nice buildings out of one, what a great idea. I also like the placement on the layout! Looking great!
Adriatic posted:TedW posted:Adriatic posted:LizardLandscapes
I hate "smart devices".... So stupid. Never work right.
Thx, I found the videos, and watched the two on winter waterfalls, including the one with the pump. The proselytizing in the middle during the "intermission" was interesting. But I did learn some tips and certainly the technique of foam cutting and building.
Looks like I was smart to mention I hadn't watched it all. Still haven't.
Oh,well. One loop around the layout ought to be enough to "deprogram" one viewing out of us anyhow.
Adriatic,
You are just having one of those days! We took my parents out for coffee and ice cream last evening, to get them out of the personal care home for a while. After my comedy of errors thinking, I should have requested a room in their home myself!! LOL
Pat,
Thats a great experience you gave the kids, and yourself too!! Thank you for the encouragement!
ran some trains, getting ready to put up some more train shelves....waiting for info on
when #765 is moving ......hopefully get to see her on the move !
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