What would you like to see from Williams in 2012?

Unpainted versions of their locomotives.
A Genset made from the GP9 frame.
New diesel models

SP Daylight aluminum passenger cars and LIRR Alco FA's (scale size).

Ron

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Originally posted by yankspride4:
SP Daylight aluminum passenger cars and LIRR Alco FA's (scale size).

Ron

a TYPICAL Brill/Kuhlman or Cincy wooden interurban.
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/ny/htm/slsn01.htm
Extra points for Westinghouse HL switch group detailing under the floor

Pennsy Geep in Brunswick Green!!!

A better sound board. Just a decent sounding horn and bell you have control of instead of the pre recorded signal crossing horn.

Scale F3 engines in Milwaukee Road, CB&Q, and CGW freight colors. In fact the CGW engines could be lettered for 3 different railroads. CGW, Katy, and KCS engines had the same color at one time.

A offset cupola steel caboose (without portholes!) should be offered for each F3 set.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Mike

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Originally posted by Chris Lonero:
A better sound board. Just a decent sounding horn and bell you have control of instead of the pre recorded signal crossing horn.

Something like the old QSI Hooter/Tooter would be great.

Ron

I agree with Yankspride4, a set of SP Daylight Aluminum Passenger Cars (4 car set or 5). I would also like to see a improved smoke unit on the steam engine's.

Many thanks,

Billy C

Oh, boy...Before Bachmann acquired Williams I was at a train
convention and saw Bachman Shays or Climaxes in On30. In
addition to begging puh-leeze make these danged things in On3
AND in O 3 rail, the two guys there said it ain't ever gonna happen..we aren't getting into 3 rail. Now they own Williams and
have made a couple of nice small 3 rail engines I need to find and look at (still have to correct all their logging stuff to On3,
and none of it yet is in O 3 rail).
1. Williams should offer all the Bachmann logging equipt. in 3
rail and On3. (not sure about On3 market but I betcha the 3
rail market is bigger than On30!) Hey, how much extra tooling,
at least for superstructures, would that be?
2. Think they have a Mikado and a Ten-Wheeler. Moguls and
Consolidations logically would follow, and how about that
Little River 2-4-4-2 small articulated all the other manufacturers
have refused to build in 3 rail for years? Wouldn't that run on
small layout curves? At least two versions of those have come in brass 2 rail, and 3 or more in HO...why we are discriminated against? We have as good a taste in prototypes as these other
scales!!....
3. Like K-Line, with a few, once did...make some tenders for
separate sale..coal fired Vanderbilts (maybe with changeable
fuel areas to include oil tanks for the SP guys), in several
lengths, and box tenders in long haul and short versions. Those
nice photos of the Lionel and Williams tender switch on here should
show the way...

I'd like to see undecorated steam locomotives. How about making a Mikado or a Pacific by altering a Hudson or Berkshire. Some new paint schemes for diesels would be nice. How about NH, SF (blue/yellow), CN, or CP for the 027 Alcos? A new generic caboose, not something that screams PRR like the NC5 (I own several).

I'd like them to make the Mike they were going to make. The one Train World still has in their Ads Sheesh.

A decent whistle /bell and maybe just maybe a chuff or two
A decent smoker instead of the Seuth Boiler shell lubricator

And maybe a diesel with just diesel sound it doesn't even have to rev up.

David

Painted undecorated Ten Wheeler loco.
Wood era freight cars...a new 36ft reefer, 2 bay hopper, 8000 gal tanker...new tools.
reissue superliners

I would like to see F3 diesels in the correct UP color schemes like Mth did it. I want to have control over the horn instead of that grade crossing blast.
Rob

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Originally posted by harleyhouse:
Unpainted versions of their locomotives.
A Genset made from the GP9 frame.
New diesel models

The GP38 frame would be more appropriate for a Genset.

I would like more DT&I GP38s and DT&I GP9s, with the Ford (50s-60s), billboard (60s-70s) and starburst (late 70s) logos.

GTW GP9s wouldn't be bad either, especially in the olive/gold CN/GTW paint scheme.

The GP9 in a olive/gold CN/GTW would be great, but why not add the CV and DW&P. Cover four roads with one basic paint mask and make Midwest, Canadian and New England operators happy. Same with the black/orange scheme.

I'll also agree that a better sound and smoke unit upgrade would a welcome addition to the Williams line. Even if it was option.

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A better sound board. Just a decent sounding horn and bell you have control of instead of the pre recorded signal crossing horn.

AMEN, BROTHER! And since they now offer a 4-6-0 they should be able to offer a Pacific without a big struggle.

Pete

I would like to see Williams offer Great Northern E7's.

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Originally posted by BARailroad:

I'll also agree that a better sound and smoke unit upgrade would a welcome addition to the Williams line. Even if it was option.

OK, I'll join the chorus. Bin the Seuthe Smoke Unit and grade crossing whistle and horn. Design it so the replacement can be used in existing Williams products.

Pete

More streetcars.

Jeff C

The choice of TMCC!!! Its 2012, And there should be choices.Thanks.

The E7's they make are great, so more roads please.
Ditch the lousy smoke and sounds.
Have a command system, maybe DCC? And make the locos truly AC/DC compatible.
Ditch the Silhouettes, real passenger car interiors, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to see a cheaper repower kit for their diesels,why upgrade when you can buy an entire engine for the cost of the kit?

Also, sounds that I can control,,,and

some sort of command control..

Rod

F3s in PRR single stripe and F3s in B&LE. GPs in P&LE Black and Yellow. Don't need and sound or remote I like the low price.

NEW SCALE METROLINERS!!!!!!! PRR, PC, Amtrak!!!!

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Originally posted by leapinlarry:
The choice of TMCC!!! Its 2012, And there should be choices.Thanks.

That's a no-can-do. They would have to become a TMCC licensee, and Lionel isn't issuing that out to anyone anymore. They had the chance back in the mid/late 90s when Weaver, Atlas O and K-Line got on the bandwagon but they elected not to for their own business reasons. Maybe once the patents for TMCC expire there's a better probability, but there would be no Legacy option either since Lionel's keeping that proprietary.

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Originally posted by Dave Allen:
The E7's they make are great, so more roads please.
Ditch the lousy smoke and sounds.
Have a command system, maybe DCC? And make the locos truly AC/DC compatible.
Ditch the Silhouettes, real passenger car interiors, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

Shame on you LOL,

As much trouble as these guys have out of TMCC and DCS you want them to try something like DCC.

Just trying to program an engine would reduce the O scale population by 50 percent and Trying to set the CV's on a Tsunami command and sound decoder that has a manual with 400 pages would cause the other 50 percent to hang themselves.

Nope these guys play better if they stick to Forward,Neutral and Reverse.
(Just kidding Dave)

David

As for me, I'd like to see them make some prototype-specific truck castings for engines like their Dash 9 and U boats instead of using the EMD flexicoil-style trucks.

I like Williams cheap, just like they are, so NO more electronics. If you want all that stuff buy Lionel or MTH. Williams is about value for the money.

Rob

A locomotive that they can put universal paint schemes on, even if non-prototypical, the CF7 would be the perfect candidate.

The F3 with Southern Pacific paint scheme (all three, Black widow, Daylight and Red/Gray), I don't think anyone has done the Bloody nose scheme.

Talk to MRC and consider adding their simple sound system.

How about the original gloss on their PW Golden Memories engines.
Alan

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The F3 with Southern Pacific paint scheme (all three, Black widow, Daylight and Red/Gray), I don't think anyone has done the Bloody nose scheme.

Oh yeah, I would be on that one straight away! Good call.
Rob

1 - the E60 is a great idea - but how about a scale length version? Wms offers a scale Alco
FA as well as the little 027's (both are great)...

2 - the suggestion of modifying the little Berk to a Mike and coming up with a Pacific is a good one;
a shortened scale NYC Hudson...I'd finally get my NYC K-5 Pacific.

3 - but, as to Pacifics, how about an older-prototype, slim-boilered, lanky Pacific? A little more modern (say, 1905 - 1910)
than the 4-6-0, but using the same running gear (+ truck) - but with better rods and valve gear (not new to Wms). Almost as
generic as the 4-6-0, back in the day.

4 - the piece de resistance, however, would be a basic, 0-6-6-0 articulated (Mallet or simple) for $350 - $400.
Railking-level and design. 031. 4-6-0 gearing. Whistle/Seuthe. Tender version one year; tank version the next - a la
Mantua HO 2-6-6-2.
Leave the Command Control up to those who want it - like me.

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I like Williams cheap, just like they are, so NO more electronics. If you want all that stuff buy Lionel or MTH. Williams is about value for the money.

While posting a 'want' list I didn't think about what to leave alone. The Ten Wheeler with new smoke and whistle are all I need. Keep It Simple WBB!

Texas Special add-on cars for the 60' aluminum passenger cars. The 4 car set came out years ago, but they never made the add-ons.

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Originally posted by leikec:
More streetcars.

Jeff C

This one would be nice and would use an existing mech.
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/ny/htm/syr26.htm

I'd like to see for their 15 and 18 inch passenger cars:
Streamliners- An RPO, more add-on coaches, and dome cars.

Heavyweights- An RPO, Combine, a Diner, and more add-on cars. Also on the PRR cars port-hole windows.
I do forget off-hand what lines of cars have what, so that is a general list.

And more J's. I really like the ones they made so far.

Bill

A few starter sets and conrail f3s or alcos

o-27 alcos in LV i know they make or made the scale ones in LV
dump the suethe smoke unit and go with a traditional puffer i'm strictly conventional so no fan driven ones. if they would do that i'd jump on their steamers!
more simple starter sets i really liked the alco ones.
Dave

Actually, W did make the TX SP 15" ad ons. Unless I cannot add, I have a 6 car TX SP 2500 style passenger train. and it looks good with the W/WBB Katy/up Heritage!