I have never seen rusty rail on the side of track. Unused rail may have rust on the top but not on the sides. I found some old rail from the old Northwestern Pacific with a date 1954 and no rust. On my new layout I have been painting my Gargraves track dirty black. Looks much better. Just thought of an idea for "O" gauge track makers. Paint them, then sell them. Don
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Couldn't agree more! Just painted 100+ feet of rail this afternoon. A mix of rail brown, railroad tie brown, and some grimy black. Nothing out here is rusty....you have to have water to create rust, and we all know how much water we get.
Time to ballast! Where's Dennis Brennan anyway? Probably getting ready for York
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These are recent photo of the rails for the Mainline tracks of the Grand Trunk Western Railroad in Michigan.
What is this color?
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It is most likely Muddy Brown.
Rust is closer to orange.
Andrew
Do you paint the center rail or leave it black?
I have never seen rusty rail on the side of track.
WOW! I don't know what to say? I would bet, you haven't been around here much?
Couldn't agree more! Just painted 100+ feet of rail this afternoon. A mix of rail brown, railroad tie brown, and some grimy black. Nothing out here is rusty....you have to have water to create rust, and we all know how much water we get.
Time to ballast! Where's Dennis Brennan anyway? Probably getting ready for York
LOS
That looks great. Was that done with spray can paint or an air brush?
I have never seen rusty rail on the side of track.
WOW! I don't know what to say? I would bet, you haven't been around here much?
Even if he hasn't been around the OGR Forums much, that still doesn't mean he is incorrect. Having been "around the real railroads" pretty much all my life, "rusty/red" rail is generally associated with unused or new rail. Rail that has been "in service" and heavily used, such as main line rail, tends to accumulate that brownish color in today's modern world of real railroading.
Back in the "old days" of steam and oil lubricated plain bearing equipped rilling stock, the sides of the rails tended to have a dark "greenish" coating, due to all the journal oil (which was indeed green color) which dripped out of everything.
I must admit that some folks that spray, or brush, paint the sides of their train tracks red, sure makes them look toy-like in my opinion.
HW, it was more of a crack on the good life those "guys" have out in the Southwest. I was in AZ for awhile and looked at many cars. Their biggest issue working on cars is getting the dirt off of bolts! Up here, we have to torch almost everything anytime a bolt needs to be removed under our cars. Rust goes after everything.
It does appear more of a brownish color even to me!
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Couldn't agree more! Just painted 100+ feet of rail this afternoon. A mix of rail brown, railroad tie brown, and some grimy black. Nothing out here is rusty....you have to have water to create rust, and we all know how much water we get.
Time to ballast! Where's Dennis Brennan anyway? Probably getting ready for York
LOS:
VERY nice looking trackwork. Looking forward to seeing it ballasted.
Save yourself a few bucks. Go get some play sand. Build up the profile and fill in the ties just below the top. THEN sprinkle on that great looking Brennan's ballast.
There ya have it, your Bohemian money saving tip for the day.
I do this even with my HO projects, and did it on all of my three rail projects. I was using Woodland Scenics product though.
Regards,
Jerry
Rust 'weathers' folks, it darkens with age.
Krylon or Rustoleum Camo Brown is the perfect color for rail.
Krylon or Rustoleum Camo Brown is the perfect color for rail.
For the modern "diesel" era, I fully agree. Our layout however is modeled in the early 1950s, i.e. big steam, and thus the rails/track is all weathered with a Rustoleum "charcoal green" color. The green journal oil from all those plain bearing freight cars and steam locomotives soaked the rail sides heavily, giving it that greenish tint.
Yep - camo brown, either of the above brands.
Not all track is this color - some is "browner", but it will do in most situations (deserts, not as much; more grayish, typically).
But those spray cans of "oxide red" or "rust" - no, no - that's orange.
Spray Camo brown; GarGraves:
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Just did NJ Hi Railers roundhouse tracks with a combination of Krylon red primer and leather brown. Looks nice and grimy like the old NYS&W Little Ferry roundhouse did.
Next comes all the spills..........
Rust 'weathers' folks, it darkens with age.
Yep, we need to come up with a range of paint colours. Let's start with "Fresh Rust" and "Weathered Rust"
......Rustoleum "charcoal green" color....
Do you have a picture of it? I'm interested....
Rust 'weathers' folks, it darkens with age.
Yep, we need to come up with a range of paint colours. Let's start with "Fresh Rust" and "Weathered Rust"
No, because it all depends on what era the person is effectively trying to model.
......Rustoleum "charcoal green" color....
Do you have a picture of it? I'm interested....
Here is another photo showing the color, slightly different light. Notice how the switch was just re-ballasted after the track gang finished their work.
Regards,
Jerry
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gnnpnut and HW,
Thanks, that's what I'm looking for, enjoyed the photos.
Here is another photo showing a slightly different rail treatment. On this one, rail brown was used, and Paul elected to leave the center rail black.
Here is another shot on my engine terminal modules. I wanted something I could do with minimal effort, so these were simply shot with Floquil grimy black, which is what I do on my HO railroad.
At the end of the day, I don't think it matters what shade the track / rail is painted, the object is to get rid of the shiny rail. My object was always to get the viewer to focus on the motive power and equipment, and lose sight of the fact of that pesky center rail in the photo.
Regards,
Jerry
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I've been on the fence about painting my rails or not. But seeing these pictures you gentlemen have posted is an inspiration!
Here are the tracks on the Norfolk Southern (former PRR) mainline in Duncannon, Pa. that I am using as a reference. Lots of break dust on the ties too:
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My layout has Rust Oleum Camo Green on the main track, and Camo Brown on yard tracks and spurs. Sprayed all three rails and the ties before it was laid, and immediately wiped off the top of the rails. Grey Brennan's Ballast on the main, and his black ballast on secondary tracks. It is a pretty good re-creation of transition-era track.
Guys, Nice job detailing the rails. I tired a few colors this week on some test track. Looks ok, not enough black.
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Interesting topic. How to make track look more realistic . . .
Rust color, after about two weeks, begins to approximate a dusty brown, at least in California. My outer loop is steel, and it does rust some.
Sandblast it, take it outside and leave it there for a few weeks, bring it inside and sand the tops.
Works just like the real thing.
Sandblast it, take it outside and leave it there for a few weeks, bring it inside and sand the tops.
Works just like the real thing.
Not with Atlas solid nickel silver rail, it doesn't.
Sandblast it, take it outside and leave it there for a few weeks, bring it inside and sand the tops.
Works just like the real thing.
Not with Atlas solid nickel silver rail, it doesn't.
As Hot Water says. Also NOT with MTH ScaleTrax or GarGraves SS.
Ron
Krylon or Rustoleum Camo Brown is the perfect color for rail.
For the modern "diesel" era, I fully agree. Our layout however is modeled in the early 1950s, i.e. big steam, and thus the rails/track is all weathered with a Rustoleum "charcoal green" color. The green journal oil from all those plain bearing freight cars and steam locomotives soaked the rail sides heavily, giving it that greenish tint.
This is correct. On the PRR mainline, those "charcoal green" rails even had a distinctive oily smell.
Looks nice but for me it would be a box of paint pens, I would be to lazy for any other method.
Looks nice but for me it would be a box of paint pens, I would be to lazy for any other method.
Taking the "easy way out" is exactly why I spray painted all the track, prior to laying ANY ballast/scenery! I simply can NOT imagine bending over all that track using "paint pens".
Running a paint pen down the side of the rails sounds easy to me. IF I were to paint it would have been before the track was laid. Whatever suits you works for me.
Looks nice but for me it would be a box of paint pens, I would be to lazy for any other method.
Taking the "easy way out" is exactly why I spray painted all the track, prior to laying ANY ballast/scenery! I simply can NOT imagine bending over all that track using "paint pens".
Hindsight is 20-20 as they say. I regret not taking care of this when we first started laying track on the club layout 12 years ago. Unfortunately, given that it is 80% fully sceniced, the paint pens may be our only option.
I'm at the very early stages of a new home layout and this will be done at the start. I'm still undecided about spray can vs airbrush having never used an airbrush before.
Keep the comments and especially the pictures coming. Enjoying this thread