I just got some new trains! Here are some 'halftime' photos of the new Lionel Burlington Texas! Runs, sounds, and looks fantastic!
Hope to add a video after the game!
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Looks nice but I wish it looked like a Burlington rather than an east coast model with Burlington decals.
Ray
Ray... this is a fantasy scheme loco... its just not realistic for the manufacturers to tool up all the unique engines in the steam era...
It looks close and i am thrilled with it...
Wow...... that right there is what causes folks like me to fall off the wagon...... I’m Hawkshaw and I’m a train addict. When’s the next 12 step train meeting?
Awesome engine Bob.
Hawk... i am totally addicted... there is no cure!
Awesome! Could we see a video?
Super O Bob posted:Ray... this is a fantasy scheme loco... its just not realistic for the manufacturers to tool up all the unique engines in the steam era...
Why not? Sunset/3rd Rail sure does a FANTASTIC job of producing the CORRECT model/models of steam locomotives for specific railroads. Plus, Sunset/3rd Rail offered BOTH versions of the famous CB&Q "Colorado Class" 2-10-4s (one with the Elesco Feedwater System and one with the Worthington BL Feedwater System).
It looks close
Actually that model does NOT "look close" to ANY CB&Q steam locomotive! It is a Pennsylvania class J1, no matter HOW you look at it.
and i am thrilled with it...
Well,,,,,,I guess THAT is what counts.
Hot water... the Tooling is for a c&o... the prr looks different...
No point in posting any videos or any more pictures... the usual people just complain about the new engine i just spent my hard earned money on... and really love it...
This was intended to be a fantasy scheme, and it really looks great dressed up in CBQ colors!
But im not wasting my time anymore on this forum.
Hot Water, if you have a photo or two of the Burlington/3rd rail locos, please post it/them so folks like me can make a comparison.
Comparison for what?
Once, when I was much younger, I collected old cars. Long before the internet. I researched everything. Studied all the details. Then one day I passed up the opportunity of a lifetime on a 1949, two door Chevy. All because it had a 1955 bench front seat. Wasn’t original. I’ve regretted it ever since.
When one looks at a forest and only sees the veins in the leaves, well .... it’s almost as bad as not seeing the forest at all because the trees are in the way.
Lighten up.
Pingman posted:Hot Water, if you have a photo or two of the Burlington/3rd rail locos, please post it/them so folks like me can make a comparison.
I no longer have most all of my layout and motive power photos, ever since the big desk top Apple crashed. However, check out the cover of OGR RUN 244, from August/September 2010. The model on the right is one of my CB&Q M4A engines (#6315), next to a Northern Pacific 4-8-4 (#2685), under the coaling dock. There should also be views of some of my CB&Q steam power on the videos produced by OGR and TM Books & Videos.
Super O Bob posted:No point in posting any videos or any more pictures... the usual people just complain about the new engine i just spent my hard earned money on... and really love it...
This was intended to be a fantasy scheme, and it really looks great dressed up in CBQ colors!
But im not wasting my time anymore on this forum.
I'm right there with you, Bob. The 'Veni, Vidi, Poopie' crowd is always lurking in the shadows of the forum.
I think your engine is simply awesome! You have good reason to be proud. You're gracious to share the photos words of support.
Pour yourself a glass/stein of celebration, soak up the sounds and action,....and if you can get past the boo-bears, I for one would love to see a video.
Keep smiling!
KD
HW, thanks for the suggestions.
It seems like people find a way to complain about everything Lionel does these days, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it. For crying out loud, Lionel delivered on their promise! They brought you an engine that looks, sounds, and functions great right out of the box, which it seems is quite a rarity anymore. If I had one complaint, I don't like the white walls that are only on the front of the engine, but that is an issue that can be fixed in three strokes of paint.
And, to all Lionel nay-sayers, if you read anything today that sticks with you, make it this: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERFECTION. Lionel is run by humans, and I'm sure many of them are not train nerds like us. If you don't like their product, don't buy it. And for the love of God, DO NOT bash them on the Forum for every single mistake. If their intent was to disappoint or hurt their customers, do you think they would have been operating for 119 consecutive years?
If you enjoy bashing manufacturers on the Forum, then PLEASE leave. We don't need your negativity here.
Super O Bob posted:No point in posting any videos or any more pictures... the usual people just complain about the new engine i just spent my hard earned money on... and really love it...
This was intended to be a fantasy scheme, and it really looks great dressed up in CBQ colors!
But im not wasting my time anymore on this forum.
Bob, I like your engines. After all and many forget they are toy trains.
Hey Bob
I would love to see a video - please - looks awesome on your super o layout
Thanks for taking the time to post pics
Joe S
Pingman posted:Hot Water, if you have a photo or two of the Burlington/3rd rail locos, please post it/them so folks like me can make a comparison.
IIRC, Sunset 3rd Rail offered 2 versions, with the major difference being the type of feedwater heater:
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It looks like the paint is nicely applied.
Otherwise, HW's observations seem to be on point and informative. You like your engine, that is all that matters.
I was not "bashing" Lionel or the model. I'm a strong supporter of Lionel. I do realize that this is a hobby for the enjoyment of having fun modeling and running trains. I don't begrudge those that want to have a Southern Pacific GS4 painted and lettered for the NYC. It's there right to enjoy our hobby anyway they like.
My comment stated it "LOOKS NICE". I didn't "bash" it or Lionel. For me, I prefer to have models that closely resemble the prototype, but that's my modeling preference, not everyone follows prototype models, which I say is OK.
The fact is, the Burlington (CB&Q) is no where need as popular as SP, UP, NYC, PRR, GN, C&O, WM and many other railroads. So I don't expect to see a lot of 3 rail Burlington steam engines. I just finished modifying a Lionel Legacy USRA 2-8-2 to more closely resemble a Q engine. I do this a frequently and enjoy tinkering with these upgrades. Next project is to convert my Lionel Legacy Southern Railway 4-6-2 to a Q 4-6-4.
RAY
If the OP wanted a dead on replica of the Burlington Texas Type locomotive he would not have bought the one he did. He is very clearly happy with his decision. Why the heck are forum members dead set on telling other members why they should be unsatisfied with their purchases? So many people on this forum suck the joy out of playing with trains.
I think it is great that Super O Bob loves his new engine! Have fun with it and post more pics and videos!
CSX Troy posted:IIRC, Sunset 3rd Rail offered 2 versions, with the major difference being the type of feedwater heater:
...and the smokebox front, headlight, pilot, valve gear, domes on the boiler, the entire tender....
T4TT posted:If the OP wanted a dead on replica of the Burlington Texas Type locomotive he would not have bought the one he did. He is very clearly happy with his decision. Why the heck are forum members dead set on telling other members why they should be unsatisfied with their purchases? So many people on this forum suck the joy out of playing with trains.
I think it is great that Super O Bob loves his new engine! Have fun with it and post more pics and videos!
Yes, this is the 3 rail traditional forum. If you want to talk about rivets and scale please use the 3 rail scale forum.
Bob, please keep posting the photos and, if you can, a video of your new locomotive.
For the prototype purists, this thread was posted in the "Hi-Rail" forum; not the "3-rail Scale" forum. I mention that because Bob and no one else who thinks this is a nice engine is expecting it to be any more than it is.
Pingman posted:Bob, please keep posting the photos and, if you can, a video of your new locomotive.
I'll second that request; I thought it looked pretty awesome, non-Q details notwithstanding...
Mark in Oregon
I'd like to see the video too. I think your new engine looks fantastic!
Hal
Bob;
Love the new engine... I’ve always been a fan of big steamers. Just out of curiosity, will a 2-10-4 negotiate the Super-O 36” curves??? If so, THAT would be an interesting video. Enjoy your new train!!!
Super O Bob posted:No point in posting any videos or any more pictures... the usual people just complain about the new engine i just spent my hard earned money on... and really love it...
This was intended to be a fantasy scheme, and it really looks great dressed up in CBQ colors!
But im not wasting my time anymore on this forum.
Bob,
I have said in the past that sooner or later no one is going to be posting pictures or videos of their new O gauge engines because of negitive comments from certain forum members. These members don't have to be named but should follow a old rule when someone is posting about their new purchases " If you have nothing good to say don't say anything". Nothing kills a persons thrill of a new purchase like hearing " that's the wrong whistle" or " the color is not correct" or " the details are not right".
Now I am not saying these members do not have the right to express their opinion, they do but start your own thread. You are killing this forum with all the negitive comments. In the past threads would stay on the first page of the High Rail forum for a few hours......now threads last on page one for days.
Bob I hope you change your mind and continue posting your new purchases.
JohnB
The loco does look good, Bob. I’m debating on getting one for myself. Most of my locos are fantasy schemes, it’s fun to ask: “what could have been?”
Just my philosophy regarding model railroading. ALL model railroading is caricature. The most gigantic pike is a mere few scale miles in length. Our most broad curve is sharper than the tightest industrial trackage:
"For slow-speed, lightly-trafficked locations away from main lines, such as industry spurs, the practical maximum degree of curve for new construction is generally considered to be 12°30' (R=459.28'), though this practice can vary according to various railroads’ standards."
Lessee, a prototype 459' radius curve = 9.5' RADIUS in O scale (1:48). That would be O228.
ALL caricature. What matters is whether it is GOOD caricature and good, as always, is in the mind's eye of the beholder. ALL modelers choose what details to model and what details to ignore whether it's a missing Elesco Feedwater Heater or impossibly sharp curves and short mainlines. It's all good.
Enjoy the engine, Bob
It's a beautiful engine and the Super O track makes it look even nicer. Why doesn't the Lion re-issue.....oops, never mind. That belongs in a different thread. Again, nice engine.
I wanna see the video. Please.
Ed
Bob, your engine is a real beauty! Thanks for sharing. I'd love to see a video
It is amazing how good the Super O track looks ( it is what? - over 60 years old now?) and how much it adds to this locomotive (of modern manufacture with a level of detail they could not even have imagined 60 years ago) and which is quite handsome by itself.
Super O Bob posted:Hot water... the Tooling is for a c&o... the prr looks different...
Most of the details are correct for the C&O T-1, except the combined sandbox/steamdome, and the arch of the cab roof, which are definitely Pennsy style.
Stuart
T4TT posted:If the OP wanted a dead on replica of the Burlington Texas Type locomotive he would not have bought the one he did. He is very clearly happy with his decision. Why the heck are forum members dead set on telling other members why they should be unsatisfied with their purchases? So many people on this forum suck the joy out of playing with trains.
I think it is great that Super O Bob loves his new engine! Have fun with it and post more pics and videos!
The OP posted an opinion that it is "not realistic for manufacturers to tool up for unique engines of the steam area."
HW posted that sure it is, and HAS been done. What HW said is absolutely true.
The OP said the model "looks close" to what I assume is the prototype. That is a comparison of a model to the prototype. That opens the question for debate about the train in comparison to the prototype. Again, I'd agree with HW that this is a pretty poor model of the prototype. Sure it is a great toy, but not so as a great model.
Thirdly, HW goes on to agree that what counts is that the original poster is thrilled with his purchase. Also, spot on by HW.
What's not to like, here? I think we all agree, now.
Super O Bob posted:Hot water... the Tooling is for a c&o... the prr looks different...
Actually, the boiler (behind the smokebox) tooling is PRR, not C&O. The CB&Q cab appears to be the C&O version, and is definitely not PRR (it had a Loewy flair). Even Lionel's "C&O T-1" version has a Pennsy boiler, which looks much different in details from the C&O's actual boiler.
Seacoast posted:Super O Bob posted:No point in posting any videos or any more pictures... the usual people just complain about the new engine i just spent my hard earned money on... and really love it...
This was intended to be a fantasy scheme, and it really looks great dressed up in CBQ colors!
But im not wasting my time anymore on this forum.
Bob, I like your engines. After all and many forget they are toy trains.
And, after all, many forget that they are model trains. Modelers' opinions are still allowed here, I presume? Criticism it is not - I have a few "squint" pieces, myself.
Ray of sunshine posted:Next project is to convert my Lionel Legacy Southern Railway 4-6-2 to a Q 4-6-4.
RAY
A number of years ago I bought one of the Lionel TMCC Erie too-long Pacifics (your Legacy one they have re-issued; it's as long as the USRA 4-8-2), dropped the Cole trailing truck and adapted (not much work) a 4-wheel Delta truck from a Lionel NYC J3a Hudson, making a very handsome freelance Hudson out of it. All kinds of room under that big, too-long-for-a-Pacific firebox.
I hadn't had it converted long when I looked at it and said "Hmm - if I were a CB&Q fan this thing could be nicely massaged into one of their Hudsons." Not being a Q fan as such, I didn't, but post some shots of yours if you do it.
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