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"After a raid on Berlin, Chow Hound was so low on fuel, she couldn't make it back to the airfield so the pilot set her down in a suitable field.  Fortunately, US troops, ground and rail support were close enough to service her so she could make it back.  Some minor damage being attended to, but, with a fill-up and reload of bombs, this dedicated crew intends to make another bomb drop before returning to their home field.  The Pilot, Ted "Fearless" Dante (Call sign "Brimstone") , and his crew will be off soon to make another very special delivery."

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@ToledoEd posted:

"After a raid on Berlin, Chow Hound was so low on fuel, she couldn't make it back to the airfield so the pilot set her down in a suitable field.  Fortunately, US troops, ground and rail support were close enough to service her so she could make it back.  Some minor damage being attended to, but, with a fill-up and reload of bombs, this dedicated crew intends to make another bomb drop before returning to their home field.  The Pilot, Ted "Fearless" Dante (Call sign "Brimstone") , and his crew will be off soon to make another very special delivery."

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Love the detail. I have a Navy Lionel set and always wanted to do a military scene.

@ToledoEd posted:

"After a raid on Berlin, Chow Hound was so low on fuel, she couldn't make it back to the airfield so the pilot set her down in a suitable field.  Fortunately, US troops, ground and rail support were close enough to service her so she could make it back.  Some minor damage being attended to, but, with a fill-up and reload of bombs, this dedicated crew intends to make another bomb drop before returning to their home field.  The Pilot, Ted "Fearless" Dante (Call sign "Brimstone") , and his crew will be off soon to make another very special delivery."

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Excellent story and footage ED.  The "Chow Hound"  appears to be ready for take off.. It looks like a CAVU" day, to get back in the action'... Nice presentation, great photos'...and details.... 👍🎆🛩🌟

@Jimmy D posted:

Need opinions. More greenery, less, just right?

I really like the jagged rock look of your mountain overall.  You did a fabulous job creating this mountain and it looks fantastic IMHO!!   Without being able to view your mountain up close and in person it's challenging to give accurate feedback, at least for me, however, I'll give it my best shot.  

In studying your photos,  I would let the rock, as you have done it so well, dominate the entire mountain giving the impression that the tunnel was blasted out of hard rock.  I suggest using only a moderate amount of lichen ... ie: protruding from crevices, sides of the portals, and along the top of the mountain range.  I would use ground cover sparingly  as well ... again allowing the rock to dominate.  With the domination of rock, vegetation only grows in pockets where soil has collected.  As for use of trees ... very sparingly and well positioned.  Any trees near top of the mountain should be short in height, which allow for forced perspective IMO.  In real life when viewing trees at tops of mountains, the trees look small.   At the base you might use some tallis ... giving the impession of rock falling down the side  of the mountain over the many year and perhaps using some real stones to enhance this impression.   Additionally, I suggest using ample amount of lichen, brush, ground cover, and trees such as orchard trees,  along the base of the mountain.  You can go into your back yard or nearby wooded area and gather some very small sticks and/or branches of trees to use at the mountain's base.  These will give the impression of trees that have fallen over just as they do in nature.  I see this sort of thing everyday on my walks in the parks near my home.   Again if I were to see your mountain up close and in person my suggestions may be different because I could see the entire mountain in  context with your entire layout.  Scenicing is all about contextual balance, nuance, and ascetics ... proportion to size of layout and mountain length, width and height.  

One last thought ... what geographic location are you modeling?  Also which season are you modeling?  Answers to these questions will impact the colors of lichen, ground cover, and types of trees you use.  

I hope this info is useful in some small way.  Above all .... enjoy the process and have BIG FUN!!  

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@Jimmy D posted:

Need opinions. More greenery, less, just right?

Jimmy, you are getting there'.. I would recommend a few "Ponderosa Pines" on the top.  O gauge trees on a mountain top as yours would have some tall trees'..  Scenic Express has the best selection of 10, 12, and 15 inch trees... Here's an example... for your reference'... An elevated scene showing the height of  the trees.  Most would agree, you can never have enough trees'...

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Ed, great scene with what looks to be a B-52, I really like your detail!

Ted wonderful photos of your trees! I know I need more, but I am going to wait till after Christmas cause I can get them at Walmart for a quarter of the cost! Then I just repaint them forest green!

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I really like the jagged rock look of your mountain overall.  You did a fabulous job creating this mountain and it looks fantastic IMHO!!   Without being able to view your mountain up close and in person it's challenging to give accurate feedback, at least for me, however, I'll give it my best shot.  

In studying your photos,  I would let the rock, as you have done it so well, dominate the entire mountain giving the impression that the tunnel was blasted out of hard rock.  I suggest using only a moderate amount of lichen ... ie: protruding from crevices, sides of the portals, and along the top of the mountain range.  I would use ground cover sparingly  as well ... again allowing the rock to dominate.  As for use of trees ... very sparingly and well positioned.  Any trees near top of the mountain should be short in height IMO.  At the base you might use some tallis ... giving the impession of rock falling down the side  of the mountain over the many year and perhaps using some real stones to enhance this impression.   Additionally, I suggest using ample amount of lichen, brush, ground cover, and trees such as orchard trees,  along the base of the mountain.  You can go into your back yard or nearby wooded area and gather some very small sticks and/or branches of trees to use at the mountain's base.  These will give the impression of trees that have fallen over just as they do in nature.  I see this sort of thing everyday on my walks in the parks near my home.   Again if were to see your mountain up close and in person my suggestions may be different.

One last thought ... what geographic location are you modeling?  Also which season are you modeling?  Answers to these questions will impact the colors of lichen, ground cover, and types of trees you use.  

I hope this info is useful in some small way.  Above all .... enjoy the process and have BIG FUN!!  

Jimmy, you are getting there'.. I would recommend a few "Ponderosa Pines" on the top.  O gauge trees on a mountain top as yours would have some tall trees'..  Scenic Express has the best selection of 10, 12, and 15 inch trees... Here's an example... for your reference'... An elevated scene showing the height of  the trees.  Most would agree, you can never have enough trees'...

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Thank you both for the feedback. Much appreciated. I haven’t really decided on a region just yet. I guess the northeast since one of the engines will be my New Haven. I think I want to stay away from the fall season. It looks nice but then you are tied to carry out those colors throughout.

Hey JimmyD, guys like Patrick and Ted really know what they are talking about. The pictures of the scenery on their layouts is fabulous. I am like you, just starting out and learning from my mistakes. Trees too tall or too short, that is the question. After doing a lot of hiking here in Colorado, I have seen big trees growing out of solid rock. Lots of different kinds of small bushes and Yuccas. Anyway, here is what I came up with.9D47F056-4636-4875-B013-02F146B8E169DC0E88B9-61FB-49E7-AC31-9E53BE0DA830My stuff is a little too pristine for the purists, but that is the way I like it. I really like what you have done so far.

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@mike g. posted:

Ed, great scene with what looks to be a B-52, I really like your detail!

Ted wonderful photos of your trees! I know I need more, but I am going to wait till after Christmas cause I can get them at Walmart for a quarter of the cost! Then I just repaint them forest green!

Well here are a couple photos I promissed!297IMG_20210901_172432IMG_20210901_172934

Love the NS engine. Runs through my neighborhood. I have the smaller version. I bought the ready to run set that came with the DCS.

@Jimmy D posted:

Thank you both for the feedback. Much appreciated. I haven’t really decided on a region just yet. I guess the northeast since one of the engines will be my New Haven. I think I want to stay away from the fall season. It looks nice but then you are tied to carry out those colors throughout.

Jimmy, you are very welcome'.  I only discovered the forum after I pretty much completed my layout.  If I learned anything, it's this.  It is your railroad, your layout.. Rule no.1,  out of the most popular prototype19 rules, means do it your way'... Also, you'll find, you will change many things, many times.  Even when totally completed, you think, you'll want to change something.  The other KEY item'.. is, building a layout should be fun and interesting as you go... So, have fun, and as Patrick says, BIG fun'...😃

@Curt Henion posted:

Hey JimmyD, guys like Patrick and Ted really know what they are talking about. The pictures of the scenery on their layouts is fabulous. I am like you, just starting out and learning from my mistakes. Trees too tall or too short, that is the question. After doing a lot of hiking here in Colorado, I have seen big trees growing out of solid rock. Lots of different kinds of small bushes and Yuccas. Anyway, here is what I came up with.9D47F056-4636-4875-B013-02F146B8E169DC0E88B9-61FB-49E7-AC31-9E53BE0DA830My stuff is a little too pristine for the purists, but that is the way I like it. I really like what you have done so far.

Hey Curt, I sent you an Email, but it was returned as the address is not recognized .....  Is the address in your profile correct?   My address is in my profile.   You can send me an email that will stay private... As I have 4 address, 2 which are confidential...

Jimmy D, Your doing great! I bought the NS SD70 used from a forum member and it runs great! DCS also.

Ted, sorry about my mistake with the B-17

Curt, The B-17 & P51 would look great hanging from the ceiling for a fly by. If it is in the house make sure you check with the CEO first! Don's ask I just know! LOL

FOR TODAY:  When I woke up this morning the air had that crispness and feel of fall.  For me there's something special about fall which drawls me toward my layout and thinking more so about trains ... go figure!  I hope for all of you forumites  that had to endure Ida, that you are safe and healthy.fullsizeoutput_126IMG_4316IMG_0056

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@Curt Henion posted:

Hey ToledoEd, I have the Revelle B17 kit and the P51 kit and want to do them like the WWll Red Tails. I don’t have room to park them, so will probably display them as a fly by. Curt6879A1C5-09B1-4449-B546-0AB1236D446A

Curt, I think your scene/fly by will be terrific.  I have one with my B-17 and a P-38 Lightning. (My brother flew one in WWII).  I intend to ad a C-47 Skytrain to the flight, painted in D-Day colors.  Please post when your planes are flying!  The Red Tails wracked up an amazing record.

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@mike g. posted:

Jimmy D, Your doing great! I bought the NS SD70 used from a forum member and it runs great! DCS also.

Ted, sorry about my mistake with the B-17

Curt, The B-17 & P51 would look great hanging from the ceiling for a fly by. If it is in the house make sure you check with the CEO first! Don's ask I just know! LOL

Mike, no problem.  Both are great bombers!

@mike g. posted:

Great fall photo Patrick, its a good thing that it is in the country or else you would have a load of leaves to pick up like Mark B. LOL!

Beautiful scene Patrick! Just like the rest of your layout!

I agree with Mike, good fall foliage, Pat.

Mike, I have a possible solution to leaves.  My neighbor to the west just mows over the leaves from his many trees and blows them under his overgrown bushes with the dead branches on the bottoms next to the property line.  Those along with his that fall into our yard make a big mess.  Now that I have a riding mower, I could just mow everything and blow them over to the yard east of us.  That guy has left a beautiful bank of flowering shrubs grow up into a jungle.  In fact, I laughingly refer to it as 'Dale's Jungle' only in my wife's hearing.  All of those leaves could just fill in Dale's Jungle.    No, I wouldn't do that, but I do plan to try out the riding mower to herd the leaves into more workable piles.  Anything in an attempt to increase train time! 

No, we do not have a homeowners association like you have.  If we did, I'm sure a veteran like yourself would whip those guys into shape.    Actually, the guy to the east is in his '70s and suffers from nervous anxiety, and the guy to my west is the same age as me, but has been getting treatment for a brain tumor and something in his lungs.  I have been very blessed that all my ailments have been tendons and skeletal. 

Bentley and I need to get to the train room!! 

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FOR TODAY:  When I woke up this morning the air had that crispness and feel of fall.  For me there's something special about fall which drawls me toward my layout and thinking more so about trains ... go figure!  I hope for all of you forumites  that had to endure Ida, that you are safe and healthy.fullsizeoutput_126IMG_4316IMG_0056

Awesome. Love the fall colors and the snow capped mountain.

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I agree with Mike, good fall foliage, Pat.

Mike, I have a possible solution to leaves.  My neighbor to the west just mows over the leaves from his many trees and blows them under his overgrown bushes with the dead branches on the bottoms next to the property line.  Those along with his that fall into our yard make a big mess.  Now that I have a riding mower, I could just mow everything and blow them over to the yard east of us.  That guy has left a beautiful bank of flowering shrubs grow up into a jungle.  In fact, I laughingly refer to it as 'Dale's Jungle' only in my wife's hearing.  All of those leaves could just fill in Dale's Jungle.    No, I wouldn't do that, but I do plan to try out the riding mower to herd the leaves into more workable piles.  Anything in an attempt to increase train time! 

No, we do not have a homeowners association like you have.  If we did, I'm sure a veteran like yourself would whip those guys into shape.    Actually, the guy to the east is in his '70s and suffers from nervous anxiety, and the guy to my west is the same age as me, but has been getting treatment for a brain tumor and something in his lungs.  I have been very blessed that all my ailments have been tendons and skeletal. 

Bentley and I need to get to the train room!! 

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😁👍 Great photo Mark, take a look at this little boy named Ponee'...Boy' Could they be cousins....😃Pony Boy

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Wilbur and Ed Rightway, father and son, own the town’s oil drilling supply company. If you need drill heads or bits, blow out protectors, or just casing and pipe, they can get it for you. Wilbur has a direct connection to Hughes Tool and Machine in Fullerton, California. He is good friends with the recluse millionaire, Howard Hughes, and can get parts flown in overnight. Sometimes Howard will even fly them in himself. Curt1B255475-6A86-4181-9447-BE3B09A225B7

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@Curt Henion posted:

Wilbur and Ed Rightway, father and son, own the town’s oil drilling supply company. If you need drill heads or bits, blow out protectors, or just casing and pipe, they can get it for you. Wilbur has a direct connection to Hughes Tool and Machine in Fullerton, California. He is good friends with the recluse millionaire, Howard Hughes, and can get parts flown in overnight. Sometimes Howard will even fly them in himself. Curt1B255475-6A86-4181-9447-BE3B09A225B7

Good one Curt... The Rightway's and Howard Hughes'.. Howard, a true American'.. many of his ideas have carried forward into todays technologies'...

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