any New Haven fans ....

A while back I purchased a new in the box Aristocraft  G scale New Haven RDC.  No place to run it since I'm 0 gauge only.  So it sits on a shelf in the den looking very cool.  RICH

The New Haven had a fleet of 125 NE-5 steel cabooses acquired in 1939, 1942 and, like C-627, in 1944.

MELGAR

Metro-North #231 is a GE P32AC-DM locomotive painted in the New Haven’s McGinnis color scheme. Like the FL-9s they replaced, the P32s are dual-mode diesel-electrics which can also operate on third-rail DC electric power for operation into Grand Central Terminal. Metro-North’s 231 examples were purchased between 1995 and 1998 and have 3200 HP. #231 is owned by the Connecticut Department of Transportation and was photographed at Danbury, CT on June 1, 2017.

MELGAR

I am slowly collecting New Haven trains.  I have 5 of the Menards NH boxcars .  I looking engines & cabooses next .   

Thanks everyone for sharing your pictures .  

I do have HO stuff in  New Haven as well . 

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Traindame posted:

Traingineers are modeling a New Haven Station for one of our Traintastic Customers... moving right along!

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It appears that the model is a compressed version of the New Haven, CT station.  I took these photos in 2009.  Please post photos of the finished model.  NH Joe

This is a photo of a picture that is inside the station.  This picture was taken shortly after the station was built.

Trackside in 2009.

Street side in 2009.

New Haven Station, built in 1920, is a beautiful station any way you look at it. It is more than worthy of its listing on the National Register of Historic Places. Note Metro-North and New Haven Railroad O-Gauge model trains in third photo.

MELGAR

Here are more photos that I took of the New Haven, CT station while I attended the 2009 Hartford National NMRA Convention. NH Joe

Main waiting room.  The bench backs have O gauge MTH models of NH trains in enclosed glass or plexiglass cases on the top.  

This is a close up of the chandelier.  They have been beautifully restored.

This the restored ceiling.  

Another view of waiting room.  I really like the flag.

An Amtrak train is ready to depart.  Note the NH on the passenger car.

View of the passenger platforms.

This is the station's yard throat at the the West (New York) end of the station.  The NH mainline from New York to Boston runs mostly West to East along Long Island Sound.  I always get confused because I think of Boston as being North of New York but it is really Northeast of New York with most of the distance being to the East.  

This is the NH motor storage yard next to station.  The NH railroad called their electric engines "motors".  Amtrak evidently uses the yard to store diesels and electric engines.  

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Darcie;

That is spectacular. Can't wait to see the completed station.

New Haven #33732 is a 40-foot steel boxcar manufactured by Pullman-Standard as part of an order for 500 cars built between December 1947 and January 1948. These cars had an empty weight of 45,500 pounds, a loaded weight of 120,000 pounds, and a 7-foot door width. The interiors were 40-feet 6-inches in length, 10-feet 6-inches in height, and 9-feet 2-inches in width, with a volume of 3,903 cubic-feet. Pictured at Danbury (CT) Railway Museum – June 1, 2017.

MELGAR

Brian,

Could you send be that pic of the NH caboose # C-548? It doesn't have to be perfect - i'm interested in the curvature of where the roof meets the side wall. Address is in my profile. Thank you.

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 

Great pictures taken on the Valley Railroad which operates between Essex, Deep River and Chester, Connecticut. It should be noted however that "New Haven" #3025 is not an actual New Haven Railroad steam locomotive, of which none have been preserved. #3025 is actually a China Railways SY 2-8-2 locomotive which was purchased and rebuilt by the Valley Railroad to resemble a New Haven J-1 Mikado type. The Connecticut Valley Railroad between Hartford and Saybrook Point was completed in 1871 and absorbed into the New Haven Railroad in 1892. The Valley Railroad runs on the original right of way along the Connecticut River.

MELGAR

I have been a New Haven fan as long as I can remember. Born and raised in Lebanon, Ct. the ‘Air Line’ ran alongside my grandparents farm. The flood in 1955 that took out a bridge in Putnam, Ct. all but put an end to any trains from Willimantic to Middletown, Ct. except for the occasional Budd car that went through. I bought a piece of the farm from my grandmother in the late 70’s continuing to raise beef cattle and turkeys and named the farm Air Line Acres. I still live here and continue to bale the hay from the fields that my grandparents once worked. I’ve been told that after the 1938 hurricane I5 hudsons ran the Air Line until the shoreline was repaired. The Air Line is now a walking trail and I can only imagine what the White Train must have looked like going through the meadow. 

Keith

It should be noted that this was the second SY 2-8-2 ordered from China. The first was lost at sea during the passage from Asia, somewhere in the Pacific.

pokey493 posted:

I have been a New Haven fan as long as I can remember. Born and raised in Lebanon, Ct. the ‘Air Line’ ran alongside my grandparents farm. The flood in 1955 that took out a bridge in Putnam, Ct. all but put an end to any trains from Willimantic to Middletown, Ct. except for the occasional Budd car that went through. I bought a piece of the farm from my grandmother in the late 70’s continuing to raise beef cattle and turkeys and named the farm Air Line Acres. I still live here and continue to bale the hay from the fields that my grandparents once worked. I’ve been told that after the 1938 hurricane I5 hudsons ran the Air Line until the shoreline was repaired. The Air Line is now a walking trail and I can only imagine what the White Train must have looked like going through the meadow. 

Keith

Keith:

Thanks for sharing these remembrances. Next time you're out on the "back 40", please take your camera and take a few pictures of your family's place, plus the walking trail, particularly where it crossed the meadow.  I know we'd all like to see it.

Steven J. Serenska

This is for Joe, a New Haven enthusiast from Yonkers, NY whose father worked for the Borden Milk Plant in Mt. Vernon, NY., inspired me to take these pictures:

That could be a dairy farm in Baldwin, NY in the early 1950, loading containers in a milk car.

Southbound New Haven train delivering milk to the Borden Milk Plant!

New Haven milk train, leaving Bronx, traveling through Yonkers and Mt. Vernon, and heading for dairy farm in Baldwin Place, NY (in Northern Westchester County.

Here is the rest of the run to the Baldwin Place dairy farm and back:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

Arnold, love your signature.  "In my little world, I leave this troubled world behind."

My kids sent me one a few years ago that I always like to quote;

I live in my own little world.  But it's OK, they know me there.

Dan Padova posted:

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

Arnold, love your signature.  "In my little world, I leave this troubled world behind."

My kids sent me one a few years ago that I always like to quote;

I live in my own little world.  But it's OK, they know me there.

Dan, I love your signature too.

In addition to O Gauge trains, another passion of mine is songwriting. "In my little world, I leave this troubled world behind" is a lyric in my song that is played during a video of Phil Klopp's magnificent train layout on YouTube. You can access the video/song by going on YouTube, typing in the search box Arnold Cribari, and clicking on Model Train Song Who Am I Rollin' By.

I will also send you the link if I can remember how to do that.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

The EP-5's were almost exclusively used on passenger trains and occasionally mail and express trains.  Three EP-5's wound up in freight service under Penn Central.

Source: EP-5 Jets - Classic Power No. 9 by Joe Cunningham.  Published by N.J. International 1991.

Rusty

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

Urgent: if I can justify running my milk train with a New Haven EP5, it could save me $600 because then I would not have to buy the Lionel postwar F3 A & B units! Can the milk train be pulled by the EP5?LOL

Rusty Traque posted:

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

The EP-5's were almost exclusively used on passenger trains and occasionally mail and express trains.  Three EP-5's wound up in freight service under Penn Central.

Source: EP-5 Jets - Classic Power No. 9 by Joe Cunningham.  Published by N.J. International 1991.

Rusty

Thanks Rusty, you have answered my question.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

The only "flaw" I see is running a PRR caboose instead of a NH caboose on the train.  However, it is your world and anything goes.  You have a beautiful layout.  Thanks for sharing.

NH Joe

Arnold,

I enjoy your musings... On a more serious note, New Haven was an ALCO road during the steam and diesel eras and did not own any EMD F-series diesels until they bought the FL-9 locomotives beginning in 1955 - same year as they got the EP-5s which were intended for passenger service into Grand Central Terminal, as Rusty said. ALCO S-2 and RS-3 diesels would be more appropriate during the early 1950s - and also electric freight engines such as the EF-3s. MTH has made models of each of these types. The New Haven Safe Milk Company shipped milk - possibly on the main line into New York City but I think that much more milk traffic came down from Vermont on the Rutland and New York Central. Doesn't matter - run whatever tweaks your imagination as long as it says NH...

MELGAR

New Haven Joe posted:

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

The only "flaw" I see is running a PRR caboose instead of a NH caboose on the train.  However, it is your world and anything goes.  You have a beautiful layout.  Thanks for sharing.

NH Joe

Joe, I totally agree with you. I will try hunt for a New Haven caboose. Problem is, I don't think Luonel made a post war New Haven caboose or even a NY Central  post war caboose. Maybe K Line or other company made them.

MELGAR posted:

Arnold,

I enjoy your musings... On a more serious note, New Haven was an ALCO road during the steam and diesel eras and did not own any EMD F-series diesels until they bought the FL-9 locomotives beginning in 1955 - same year as they got the EP-5s which were intended for passenger service into Grand Central Terminal, as Rusty said. ALCO S-2 and RS-3 diesels would be more appropriate during the early 1950s - and also electric freight engines such as the EF-3s. MTH has made models of each of these types. The New Haven Safe Milk Company shipped milk - possibly on the main line into New York City but I think that much more milk traffic came down from Vermont on the Rutland and New York Central. Doesn't matter - run whatever tweaks your imagination as long as it says NH...

MELGAR

You should be a railroad historian, Melgar, thanks for the information!

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

New Haven Joe posted:

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

There may be a flaw in my New Haven milk train.

Would there have been an EP5 Electric pulling that milk train? I would love to know the answer from someone. I Googled it and couldn't find the answer.

If only I had a Lionel New Haven F3 diesel (A& B units)!

 

The only "flaw" I see is running a PRR caboose instead of a NH caboose on the train.  However, it is your world and anything goes.  You have a beautiful layout.  Thanks for sharing.

NH Joe

Joe, I totally agree with you. I will try hunt for a New Haven caboose. Problem is, I don't think Luonel made a post war New Haven caboose or even a NY Central  post war caboose. Maybe K Line or other company made them.

Williams by Bachmann makes a copy of the post war NH cabooses.  I don't know if Lionel ever made a NH caboose in the post war era.  The Williams model may be a reproduction of a Lionel post war caboose painted in NH colors.  I will check with my TCA friends next week to see if anyone knows if Lionel made a NH caboose during the post war era.  I own modern nicely detailed NH cabooses by Atlas, MTH, and K-Line.  I don't recall if I have a Lionel NH caboose.  I will check to see if I have one.

The photo shows a Williams SD pulling a Williams caboose on the G&O garden railroad.  I still have the engine but I sold the caboose some time ago.

NH Joe

I had this custom painted a couple weeks ago from a old MPC shell. I later swapped frames with a TMCC Pennsy Tuscan GP7 with TMCC . The screw holes were broken on the Tuscan shell and was unable to find a replacement so now the New haven Geep has TMCC.

Gene H posted:

I had this custom painted a couple weeks ago from a old MPC shell. I later swapped frames with a TMCC Pennsy Tuscan GP7 with TMCC . The screw holes were broken on the Tuscan shell and was unable to find a replacement so now the New haven Geep has TMCC.

Looks great, Gene. Excellent work. 

 

 

 

Serenska posted:

pokey493 posted:

I have been a New Haven fan as long as I can remember. Born and raised in Lebanon, Ct. the ‘Air Line’ ran alongside my grandparents farm. The flood in 1955 that took out a bridge in Putnam, Ct. all but put an end to any trains from Willimantic to Middletown, Ct. except for the occasional Budd car that went through. I bought a piece of the farm from my grandmother in the late 70’s continuing to raise beef cattle and turkeys and named the farm Air Line Acres. I still live here and continue to bale the hay from the fields that my grandparents once worked. I’ve been told that after the 1938 hurricane I5 hudsons ran the Air Line until the shoreline was repaired. The Air Line is now a walking trail and I can only imagine what the White Train must have looked like going through the meadow. 

Keith

Keith:

Thanks for sharing these remembrances. Next time you're out on the "back 40", please take your camera and take a few pictures of your family's place, plus the walking trail, particularly where it crossed the meadow.  I know we'd all like to see it.

Steven J. Serenska

Decided to brave the cold today and snap some photos. 

This view is from the hayfield looking at the Air Line.

From the Air Line looking at the hayfield.

This is on the Air Line looking northeast.

This is on the Air Line looking southwest.

MELGAR posted:

pokey493 posted:

Decided to brave the cold today and snap some photos. 

 

This is on the Air Line looking northeast.

This is on the Air Line looking southwest.

In my opinion, these are the most significant NYNH&HRR photos ever posted on this thread.

MELGAR

Melgar;

I am curious... what do you feel makes these pics so significant??? 

briansilvermustang posted:

Can't get enough of the New Haven. I have always loved the orange, black and white, which is as gorgeous as it gets, but it's also nice to see the other liveries, which I'm not as familiar with.

Apples55 posted:

Melgar;

I am curious... what do you feel makes these pics so significant??? 

APPLES55,

POKEY493's pictures show what remains of a part of the New Haven's history that few people now recall or bother to investigate. As much as I like all the other pictures and comments on this thread, they can be found in many other places - books, on line and videos. POKEY493's pictures are unique. I sure would like to be able to walk along the airline...

MELGAR

MELGAR thank you for the kind words. I’ve been drawn to trains for as long as I can remember. Living within walking distance from the Air Line only made my interest in railroads greater. As I already stated the traffic on New Havens Air Line had already dwindled to occasional at best, when I was a boy. I remember the day that the crews came through pulling up the rails and taking the ties that could be reused. So happy to see a train but so sick to see the aftermath, I felt like crying. I’m glad that people are able to walk the Rails to Trails and enjoy the same woodlands and farmland the the passengers on the White Train saw outside their windows as they went from New York to Boston in 6hrs. in the 1890’s. My father told me after World War II the Line saw little use. I didn’t mean to highjack this thread I plan to have my own O gauge New Haven layout someday.

pokey493 posted:

MELGAR thank you for the kind words.

You're welcome. Why not get started soon on that New Haven layout?

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

Apples55 posted:

Melgar;

I am curious... what do you feel makes these pics so significant??? 

APPLES55,

POKEY493's pictures show what remains of a part of the New Haven's history that few people now recall or bother to investigate. As much as I like all the other pictures and comments on this thread, they can be found in many other places - books, on line and videos. POKEY493's pictures are unique. I sure would like to be able to walk along the airline...

MELGAR

Well, MELGAR, now you've gone and done it... as a life long history fan, you are going to make me start doing some research on the NH as well as the Air Line!!! 

Thanks for your perspective.