@paigetrain posted:anyone know when the catalog is supposed to be up ?
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@paigetrain posted:anyone know when the catalog is supposed to be up ?
If memory serves me right, past releases were up around 9 e/t. Give or take the server accepting all of the site traffic.
Past 9;00 where is the catalog. I am pacing back and forth............Paul 2
I don't usually follow Lionel
Is this Big Book what you are looking for?
Nope, that's Vol. 1. This is Vol. 2. The Public Delivery Track has some of the items up on their website. Thanks Beth.
@Rusty Traque posted:No.
Rusty
Okay, I took the link out of post. - sorry about that!
The Train Shop link above has all or most of the Legacy locos, but does not seem to include the LionChief separate sale locos, for some reason. Some of the less expensive rolling stock (standard O and traditional) also seems absent.
@DukeGG1 posted:Sure. Lionel made it in 2018. #85300; MSRP was $80. Attached photo of mine. They did a nice job with it. Guy
Ohhh, that's an N5 (not N5c).
N5c is the streamlined porthole variant. I hadn't seen an N5c done recently by Lionel so your original post perked my ears up.
I have the N5b they did a few years back. However, I didn't realize until now they did an early N5 without the crash bars until you posted that picture. I need to pick one of those up, thanks!
Charles Ro has most items up
@rplst8 posted:Ohhh, that's an N5 (not N5c).
N5c is the streamlined porthole variant. I hadn't seen an N5c done recently by Lionel so your original post perked my ears up.
I have the N5b they did a few years back. However, I didn't realize until now they did an early N5 without the crash bars until you posted that picture. I need to pick one of those up, thanks!
Sorry. I was excited because there finally was a true PRSL caboose.
It''s Up!
FYI Lionel has released it on their website!
Oooooh. PRR single stripe sharks with an optional superbass B-unit!
I'm glad Lionel is doing well and I am happy that scale size operators will be excited by this catalog. For me, I was hoping to see more stuff for us traditional sized 4x8 train table operators. Oh well
Nice catalog.......I wish there was a "non-weathered" version of the N&W 2-8-8-2 with tender "doghouse" available.
I believe the #5080/#5081 road numbers on the Tuscan 5-stripe sharks were reserved for the 6-axle Baldwin DR-6-4-1000/2 "Passenger Shark", Class BP20 / BF16z
Overall, some nice offerings. Thanks Lionel !!
Another great catalog from Lionel however I was hoping for a T-1 not the S-1. Still a beautiful engine but too big for me. Think that was the same problem the Pennsy had with the S-1. I guess I will continue to wait for the T-1, come on Lionel you would sell a ton of T-1s vs S-1s make the T-1 soon.
JohnB
I will order the Ann Arbor PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers from somewhere.
Hopefully the weak coupler problem can be resolved at the manufacturing plant.
Andrew
As I mentioned in another topic, I am looking at the Rock Island E7 set to pull my Golden State cars. Unfortunately, the catalog picture looks like Lionel is again using an E6 pilot instead of a correct E7 pilot. Hopefully they are using pictures from their previous catalog and will correct this on the model.
@Madockawando posted:I'm glad Lionel is doing well and I am happy that scale size operators will be excited by this catalog. For me, I was hoping to see more stuff for us traditional sized 4x8 train table operators. Oh well
Lionel announced 8-10 years ago they would not be doing any more Post War Celebration or Conventional Classic type trains. Lionchief is what they replaced that market with. If you want transformer controlled trains you are pretty much left with Williams or RMT. You could do a lot worse than either of those two.
Pete
@Norton posted:Lionel announced 8-10 years ago they would not be doing any more Post War Celebration or Conventional Classic type trains. Lionchief is what they replaced that market with. If you want transformer controlled trains you are pretty much left with Williams or RMT. You could do a lot worse than either of those two.
Pete
Thanks for the heads up. I do like Lionchief but the number of postwar style sets, lionchief sets and locomotives could have been better.
@Hancock52 posted:If you're right that could save me a bundle as I don't think I am interested in a LM version of the AC-12. The catalog illustrations (there's a number of different paint schemes, including the gray boiler version and Daylight) look like scale size engines but of course the truth may be different.
I was about to say that a LM cab forward would require new tooling but Lionel did make an LM AC-12 way back in pre-Legacy days (SKU 6-11107, released 2006/07). I don't think I have ever seen one of these in the flesh but a few pictures I have seen don't show a vast amount of scaling down. Maybe somebody who owns one can comment on that:
The fine tooling for the earlier scale TMCC AC-12 has been "recycled" once already. Anyway, I was pleasantly puzzled by the MSRP of c. $1,300 as that's the same if not slightly less than the Legacy cab forwards issued in about 2013. Even as I write that, it seems too good to be true that the new items are scale.
Not good for me as I have been chasing a scale size gray boiler version for years - 3rd Rail made one in brass many years back.
Maybe they are the MTH Imperial Cab Forwards - Some molds were already purchased 
I like the die-cast 100 ton PRR hoppers, but the $250 price for the two-pack, or $125 a car, is steep......the three 2-packs would list out at $750.....
@Oneonta posted:I like the die-cast 100 ton PRR hoppers, but the $250 price for the two-pack, or $125 a car, is steep......the three 2-packs would list out at $750.....
I wondered why they were more expensive. Where did you see that they were die-cast?
Wow, I feel like the prices are totally getting out of hand. The RPO cars are $30 more than they were in 2018.
@VThokie Steam Fan posted:Maybe they are the MTH Imperial Cab Forwards - Some molds were already purchased
Nope Lionel definately made a Lionmaster cab forward. I owned one. A nicely porportioned semiscale model and a solid runner.
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@rplst8 posted:I wondered why they were more expensive. Where did you see that they were die-cast?
Wow, I feel like the prices are totally getting out of hand. The RPO cars are $30 more than they were in 2018.
Check out description in red block in upper left corner of page.....it states die-cast metal body and frame as well as die-cast trucks........ Desirable features, but $125 a car........??
The E7 ABB in Golden State colors is interesting. It's out of my budget ($1500) and an ABB set of E7s is much too long for my layout. Other than that nothing really. Kinda the same issue with volume 1. I don't need a SP Lima GS (have a MTH Premier GS4 and GS6) but the Baldwin GS1 was very interesting, but way out of my price range at almost $2k. As far as freight cars no era specific scale ATSF or SP cars I want.
Reviewing the catalog a little better, there are only four items that fit my late 40s PRR themed layout. The South Wind set, the 2-8-8-2 mallet, the PRR 21" Golden State 2-pack, and the Rock Island E7 for the Golden State set I already have. I have the mallet, a Rock Island E6 set which will do, and too many 21" passenger sets.
That leaves the GS 2-pack. Those cars would fit nicely into my K-Line/GGD 85' passenger sets as well as add some color so I plan to order those.
Boy, Southern Pacific fans must be absolutely rich; swimming in cash with all the SP stuff offered in the last two catalogs. It must be all the cash they got from T-Mobile's takeover of Sprint.
There is an Elgin, Joliet & Eastern Baldwin locomotive, but EJ&E is not one of the railroads included in the PS-2 2-bay covered hopper selection.
Andrew
Did someone at LIONEL get an early 1970's paint chip of Burlington Northern Cascade Green that is extra dark?
The new Burlington Northern Gondola with covers looks like a very dark green.
Cascade Green was a much brighter green in person and in photos taken since 1990.
Andrew
Who watched the Lionel Facebook live video on the catalog earlier today? Did they say anything about the incorrect E6 pilots on the photos of their E7s?
@CAPPilot posted:Who watched the Lionel Facebook live video on the catalog earlier today? Did they say anything about the incorrect E6 pilots on the photos of their E7s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be
Brendan
Love the B&LE die cast hoppers but even at 100 bucks a car I’ve seen on some preorder sites that’s outrageous. If this is our only choice going forward then I’ll be happy buying used stuff
meh. Well once again my money is in no danger. There is not a thing here that I have any interest in. I guess it is safe to say the B&O is a very unpopular road to model. I two engines, and when I saw the 2-8-2's I was excited for a second but NO. Even if I got one of them I could not re-letter, head light and bell are in the wrong location for B&O. Guess I'll just need wait to for my EM-1... boo.
@CAPPilot posted:Who watched the Lionel Facebook live video on the catalog earlier today? Did they say anything about the incorrect E6 pilots on the photos of their E7s?
@Brendan posted:
Finally found the time to watch the video and was disappointed they did not address the incorrect pilot on their E7 diesels.
I have the first Legacy E7 which also had the incorrect E6 pilots. In the photo below, the E6 pilot off my E7 is on the left, and the correct E7/E8 pilot is on the right. I ordered the E8 pilot from Lionel and it looks the same as the one in pictures of the prototype E7. I have not mounted the E8 pilot yet because the mounting holes are different, so I need to figure out how to do it.
Hopefully Lionel corrects this before the E7s ship.
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@peter allen 072518 posted:meh. Well once again my money is in no danger. There is not a thing here that I have any interest in. I guess it is safe to say the B&O is a very unpopular road to model. I two engines, and when I saw the 2-8-2's I was excited for a second but NO. Even if I got one of them I could not re-letter, head light and bell are in the wrong location for B&O. Guess I'll just need wait to for my EM-1... boo.
Lionel came out with a B&O 2-8-2 in the 2017 Signature Edition/Volume 1 catalog. I can't find a picture online of the delivered model but the artwork in the catalog looks correct.
The die-cast metal body, 100 Ton, three-bay, open-top hoppers are being offered in the BLE numbers on the patched ex-THE ROCK modern blue scheme.
They have never offered or produced the die-cast metal body, 100 Ton, three-bay, open-top hoppers in the original THE ROCK `978-1979 paint scheme.
I know the BLE patched blue scheme lasted longer, but why not make THE ROCK blue scheme at the same time.
I would have bought THE ROCK scheme.
Andrew
