@The Pullman posted:I'd like to see another run of the DD35As, assuming we get a lot of big diesels. Plus a legacy centennial is definitely something I'd purchase.
Would be nice to see some more DD35s in new roadnames.
What about some scale Strasburg RR locos that we've been told before are in the works ?
@ed h posted:Would be nice to see some more DD35s in new roadnames.
What about some scale Strasburg RR locos that we've been told before are in the works ?
Wouldn't that be cool. Strasburg engines and passenger cars. Don't forget the passenger cars. The engine is useless without them IMO.
@MartyE posted:Wouldn't that be cool. Strasburg engines and passenger cars. Don't forget the passenger cars. The engine is useless without them IMO.
I agree Marty. Ryan has been going on about #90 for a good number of years and we know it is something that is dear to his heart. If the engine comes out with no cars, the catalog better indicate they will be coming in the next one, or he better say so Friday morning during the review of the catalog, as he would usually state so.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I agree Marty. Ryan has been going on about #90 for a good number of years and we know it is something that is dear to his heart. If the engine comes out with no cars, the catalog better indicate they will be coming in the next one, or he better say so Friday morning during the review of the catalog, as he would usually state so.
Let's hope somebody continues to make the MTH 64' Woodesided passenger cars in Strasburg paint - regardless of whether this is one of the molds MTH chose to keep or if it has been obtained by someone else.
As an aside - I wish they would sell the combine as a stand-alone car rather than in the 3-car set which includes a baggage car... I don't want a baggage car for my Strasburg consist. It would be a good Nicholas Smith Exclusive item 
Personally, I'm indifferent as to if Lionel makes Strasburg cars since I have the MTH ones. I would have to make sure they matched the paint of the MTH ones before committing to purchase. I will probably pre-order SRC 90 if it's in there and see what it looks like when it comes in - repaint/resell if necessary.
@Prr7688 posted:Let's hope somebody continues to make the MTH 64' Woodesided passenger cars in Strasburg paint - regardless of whether this is one of the molds MTH chose to keep or if it has been obtained by someone else.
As an aside - I wish they would sell the combine as a stand-alone car rather than in the 3-car set which includes a baggage car... I don't want a baggage car for my Strasburg consist. It would be a good Nicholas Smith Exclusive item
Personally, I'm indifferent as to if Lionel makes Strasburg cars since I have the MTH ones. I would have to make sure they matched the paint of the MTH ones before committing to purchase. I will probably pre-order SRC 90 if it's in there and see what it looks like when it comes in - repaint/resell if necessary.
Well, as soon as it is live, buzz Nicholas Smith up with your idea and see what they think. One way to get something started. I did that with Steve at Mr. Muffins but he was already reading my mind.
really curious about the us army set if that is the set featured in this catalog i may decide to go for it
Since the santa fe 2-10-10-2 came out in the last catolog, im suspecting the pennsy 0-8-8-0 will come out in this catolog. Been over 10 years!!!
I hear rumors that, if true, will represent an interesting turning point in the industry. Won't do the "my dealer told me" thing just in case it's wrong 
. But it will be worth giving the a catalog a particularly detailed look to see what's going on, or not.
@paigetrain posted:i'm surprised there hasn't been a leak of the cover either Terrance LIONEL must have found out what was going on with the previous catalogs leaking and put a stop to it OR july 16th was perhaps speaking too soon and there was a hiccup in printing
i got thinking what if lionel made a WWE train set and seperate sale boxcars for all the wrestlers ? i would buy that set for sure as well as a Paige boxcar
i mean they could do everybody. make one huge WWE train
There are always leaks, you just have to know where to look. 
@paigetrain posted:really curious about the us army set if that is the set featured in this catalog i may decide to go for it
Since the set was shown in the latest OGR magazine, have a feeling it will be in 2021Vol2.
@Landsteiner posted:I hear rumors that, if true, will represent an interesting turning point in the industry. Won't do the "my dealer told me" thing just in case it's wrong
My guess, the announcement on the future of traditional sized rolling stock?
This particular rumor isn't about traditional sized rolling stock, sorry. When the catalog appears, it will be abundantly clear what the rumor was about if it is true . Just creating some additional anticipation, based upon a tantalizing rumor. Less than three days to go. I will say the rumor shouldn't upset anyone I'd think.
@Landsteiner posted:This particular rumor isn't about traditional sized rolling stock, sorry. When the catalog appears, it will be abundantly clear what the rumor was about if it is true
Well it was a wild guess on my part, extrapolating from the steady reduction in traditional rolling stock from Lionel. But I am glad that is not the case. I am looking forward to learning if this rumor is true.
I've been watching a lot of Virtual Rail Fan lately. Wouldn't mind seeing some Amtrak with matching passenger cars. They show up in a few places on those cameras.
@Landsteiner posted:This particular rumor isn't about traditional sized rolling stock, sorry. When the catalog appears, it will be abundantly clear what the rumor was about if it is true
Guess - That whoever owns DCS now and Lionel have decided to allow DCS and Legacy to control the other system without limitations, only thing needed is a special adapter coming soon for both systems. With MTH not being a competitor so to speak both teams came to terms.
That would be a great outcome, but this rumor is not, strictly speaking, related to DCS and Legacy. But here's hoping anyway.
i just hope the rumored "turning point" is good news and an optimistic future for the hobby like a universal system that can run dcs legacy and lionchief together as well as the old stuff with out any additional hardware. i mean ho has universal compatability so why can't o gauge have it?
@SuperChief posted:Guess - That whoever owns DCS now and Lionel have decided to allow DCS and Legacy to control the other system without limitations, only thing needed is a special adapter coming soon for both systems. With MTH not being a competitor so to speak both teams came to terms.
Let's hope so
There is a large difference between running DCS and Legacy locos both in command mode on the same tracks and running a DCS and Legacy loco together in a consist or 'lash-up'.
Andrew
i just hope if the rumor is true its good news and not bad cuz turning point could go either way
Another stab for the rumor: Did Lionel purchase some of the tooling for MTH's premier steam locos? Yellowstones, E-4 hudson, etc?
i got another idea its about lionchief plus 2.0
the t1 is coming back and VSR is coming to 2.0
The rumor is good news if true. We'll have to wait and see the catalog.
oh thats good to hear was worried for a second
I know I'm hoping for a miracle, how about a scale Hogwarts Express.
@Landsteiner posted:The rumor is good news if true. We'll have to wait and see the catalog.
Lionel purchased the remaining tooling from MTH?
@Landsteiner posted:That would be a great outcome, but this rumor is not, strictly speaking, related to DCS and Legacy. But here's hoping anyway.
I've heard this will be an expensive catalog for me...but I knew that anyways hahaha.
I am going to guess Lionel bought MTH Tooling.
Evidence:
M.T.H. 2021 Transition Plans Revealed | May 18, 2021
"The as-of-now unnamed buyers of the other O Gauge tooling will be revealed later this Summer."
Source: https://mthtrains.com/news/701
AND
^^^"this rumor is not, strictly speaking, related to DCS" - @landsteiner
liberally speaking, DCS is MTH and therefore OP is implying Lionel will announce MTH product.
AND
If you look at the squares in the background of Lionel's instagram announcement, you can make out the letters "M" "T" and "H"
@TheRambles posted:I've heard this will be an expensive catalogue for me...but I knew that anyways hahaha.
I am going to guess Lionel bought MTH Tooling.
Evidence:
M.T.H. 2021 Transition Plans Revealed | May 18, 2021
"The as-of-now unnamed buyers of the other O Gauge tooling will be revealed later this Summer."
Source: https://mthtrains.com/news/701
AND
^^^"this rumor is not, strictly speaking, related to DCS" - @landsteiner
liberally speaking, DCS is MTH and therefore OP is implying Lionel will announce MTH product.
AND
If you look at the squares in the background of Lionel's instagram announcement, you can make out the letters "M" "T" and "H"
Well I do remember that many MTH fans were ecstatic that Atlas would produce product with MTH tooling, I’m sure they will be happy to know that other MTH tooling will have a second life in the orange and blue. 😉
wouldn't it be funny if Lionel licensed "Lionel Corporation" from MTH to make Lionel's version of MTH's Version of Lionel prewar?
"If you look at the squares in the background of Lionel's instagram announcement, you can make out the letters "M" "T" and "H'".
And if you turn a printed copy upside down and spin it, you will hear very clearly the distinct letters "M", "T", "H" being spoken. Try it. You'll like it.
Oh. BTW, the Walrus is Paul.
@TheRambles posted:wouldn't it be funny if Lionel licensed "Lionel Corporation" from MTH to make Lionel's version of MTH's Version of Lionel prewar?
Could happen! Except that MTH no longer has the "Lionel Corporation" under rights - as I understand it.
@TheRambles posted:If you look at the squares in the background of Lionel's instagram announcement, you can make out the letters "M" "T" and "H"
I don't have an Instagram, can anyone verify?
Also, for Lionel to buy the tooling and then turn around and sell it with Legacy in less than a year, seems like a very fast process. Would it not take more time to design and prototype? I assume we won't see any offerings with whistle steam if @Landsteiner's rumor refers to Lionel posting MTH offerings.
@0-Gauge CJ posted:I don't have an Instagram, can anyone verify?
Also, for Lionel to buy the tooling and then turn around and sell it with Legacy in less than a year, seems like a very fast process. Would it not take more time to design and prototype? I assume we won't see any offerings with whistle steam if @Landsteiner's rumor refers to Lionel posting MTH offerings.
Sorry, I couldn't resist the joke. I don't really think it says that. 
i know for a fact if they got some railking tooling it would give lionel enough to make the lc2.0 line explode with new product
@TheRambles posted:Sorry, I couldn't resist the joke. I don't really think it says that.
bruh that's not cool don't joke like that
Or it could be the apocalypse, as Bill Murray‘s character said in Ghostbusters. Cats and dogs sleeping together…
@Mark Boyce posted:Dave, I wouldn’t even begin to try to guess what they will have in the catalog. I’ve been fooled by them and MTH too many times. Maybe I’m just an old fool! 😄
Think they bought any of the MTH scale steam tooling they don't have a duplicate of and we haven't heard about lately?? 😉
In the past, catalog covers were at least leaked by now with only two days to go! Lionel seems to be doing a really good job keeping it secret until the release day this time. Still hoping for some leaks though! 😂
@TheRambles posted:Sorry, I couldn't resist the joke. I don't really think it says that.
You got me, well played
Now I'm doubting Landsteiner!
@N&WGuy posted:In the past, catalog covers were at least leaked by now with only two days to go! Lionel seems to be doing a really good job keeping it secret until the release day this time. Still hoping for some leaks though! 😂
Lionel probably realized that they couldn't ship out the catalogs to the dealers until after they release the information themselves online. Sort of like when you share a secret, it's not a secret anymore. Or, in Ben Franklin's immortal words, "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
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