Lionel 2021 Volume 2 release date set

@Landsteiner posted:

I hear rumors that, if true, will represent an interesting turning point in the industry.  Won't do the "my dealer told me" thing just in case it's wrong .  But it will be worth giving the a catalog a particularly detailed look to see what's going on, or not.

@Allan Miller posted:

I think folks will find 7/15 (tomorrow) to be an interesting day in this hobby. Stay tuned!

Genesis tooling is great, but Landsteiner called it a turning point in the hobby, and Alan here is telling us tomorrow will be an interesting day for the hobby. Would new tooling for one loco really qualify as a turning point in the hobby?

@NOT LionelLLC posted:

There's a guy who knows what he's talking about.

If its true count me in, I'll be on line with some C notes.

This is the SIXTH page of comments with only two pictures posted (The Atlas catalog, and a Lionel spoof cover).

That is a lot of conversation with no leaked pictures.

Wow that is odd.

Makes you wonder if this is all a dream.

@0-Gauge CJ posted:

Genesis tooling is great, but Landsteiner called it a turning point in the hobby, and Alan here is telling us tomorrow will be an interesting day for the hobby. Would new tooling for one loco really qualify as a turning point in the hobby?

idk maybe this turning point has to do with the release of  the menards locomotive. lionel might see it as a opertunity for something

@jpc posted:

This is the SIXTH page of comments with only two pictures posted (The Atlas catalog, and a Lionel spoof cover).

That is a lot of conversation with no leaked pictures.

Wow that is odd.

Makes you wonder if this is all a dream.

i have a hunch it can mean either of two things

1 the catalog got delayed til after friday OR 2 lionel caught on to the leaks and put a stop to it

@Allan Miller posted:

Nope! Thursday, 7/15, around 5 pm Eastern. This "channel."

This “channel” being OGR?

@MartyE posted:

This “channel” being OGR?

Yep!

So is it true (like I heard at the hobby shop) that Lionel is dumping Legacy and all the LionChief flavors and putting DCS into all of its engines from now on?

@Bob posted:

So is it true (like I heard at the hobby shop) that Lionel is dumping Legacy and all the LionChief flavors and putting DCS into all of its engines from now on?

Is that before or after, Lionel purchased the rights to the MTH smoke unit design?

@Bob posted:

So is it true (like I heard at the hobby shop) that Lionel is dumping Legacy and all the LionChief flavors and putting DCS into all of its engines from now on?

i hope not

i don't like dcs that much

News break. Lionel dumps Legacy, TMCC AND LionChief for mind control. Requires Brain implants but these are free.

@Landsteiner posted:

News break. Lionel dumps Legacy, TMCC AND LionChief for mind control. Requires Brain implants but these are free.

head set maybe like i suggested on here ages ago

https://ogrforum.com/...hnology-of-the-2030s

but no chip please

Spoke with the owner of my LHS today, Lionel had a few revisions to make before releasing the hard copies. The next 36 hours should be fun; my radar will be working full time, enjoy.

Lionel dumping Legacy sure would surprise me unless Legacy has an enormous bug we don't know about or something.

New tooling hadn't crossed my mind but that would be exciting in any case!!

Is the online catalog out the 15th or 16th? It's tough to tell who's kidding and who's serious haha

@das boot posted:

Spoke with the owner of my LHS today, Lionel had a few revisions to make before releasing the hard copies. The next 36 hours should be fun; my radar will be working full time, enjoy.

hmmm i wonder what those revisions are ?

i called my hobby shop yesterday to see if i could get a hard copy delivered by friday and he didn't have any copy for me yet so i'll call friday so i can get it by wednesday hopefully

i hope its over 100 pages like 2010 volume 2 or 2019 vol 2

611 / Strasburg fans will smile. 

@Bob posted:

So is it true (like I heard at the hobby shop) that Lionel is dumping Legacy and all the LionChief flavors and putting DCS into all of its engines from now on?

Is it April 1 already?  NH Joe

@DaveSlie posted:

611 / Strasburg fans will smile. 

i swear if this is a lionchief plus 2.0 j 611 with strasburg coaches in a set i will lose it

This answers some questions-

From: https://www.lionelcollectors.o...?id=1252&catId=7

July 15, 2021 Lionel, LLC Sponsors Virtual Online Summit for LCCA Member

Lionel, LLC has announced its second sponsorship of a virtual online Summit for LCCA members!

Similar to the tradition we celebrate every year at our convention, Lionel will host the Summit on Thursday, July 15, 2021 starting at 3 PM EDT on the Lionel Trains YouTube channel.  This agenda will include a SNEAK PEEK at the 2021 Volume II catalog prior to its release.

You do not want to miss this!  While we can’t be together again this year, we can still enjoy one of the wonderful benefits of being a member of “The Best Toy Train Club on the Planet!”

Below is the link to access the Summit.  Be sure to tune-in Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 3PM EDT.  You are encouraged to logon this site 5 minutes prior to its start.

Lionel, LLC has announced its second sponsorship of a virtual online Summit for LCCA members!

Link: http://www.youtube.com/lionelmodeltrains

@paigetrain posted:

what time eastern will the catalog come out on friday ?

i'm not an lcca member so i probably won't see the livestream tomarrow

I second this question...

IIRC the last catalog was released around 9ET? Could be wrong about that

@paigetrain posted:

what time eastern will the catalog come out on friday ?

i'm not an lcca member so i probably won't see the livestream tomarrow

@Prr7688 posted:

I second this question...

IIRC the last catalog was released around 9ET? Could be wrong about that

See here:

@TheRambles posted:

This answers some questions-

From: https://www.lionelcollectors.o...?id=1252&catId=7

July 15, 2021 Lionel, LLC Sponsors Virtual Online Summit for LCCA Member

Lionel, LLC has announced its second sponsorship of a virtual online Summit for LCCA members!

Similar to the tradition we celebrate every year at our convention, Lionel will host the Summit on Thursday, July 15, 2021 starting at 3 PM EDT on the Lionel Trains YouTube channel.  This agenda will include a SNEAK PEEK at the 2021 Volume II catalog prior to its release.

You do not want to miss this!  While we can’t be together again this year, we can still enjoy one of the wonderful benefits of being a member of “The Best Toy Train Club on the Planet!”

Below is the link to access the Summit.  Be sure to tune-in Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 3PM EDT.  You are encouraged to logon this site 5 minutes prior to its start.

Lionel, LLC has announced its second sponsorship of a virtual online Summit for LCCA members!

Link: http://www.youtube.com/lionelmodeltrains

@paigetrain posted:

i swear if this is a lionchief plus 2.0 j 611 with strasburg coaches in a set i will lose it

A LC+ 2.0 611 would be a nice upgrade from my MPC 611

@Bob posted:

So is it true (like I heard at the hobby shop) that Lionel is dumping Legacy and all the LionChief flavors and putting DCS into all of its engines from now on?

Lionel didn't purchase any of the DCS electronics at all, at least as far as we know. Plus, given that lionel still produces TMCC engines (LC+ 2.0), I doubt that they'd just dump a system that is newer, and considered by most people to be superior to TMCC.

@0-Gauge CJ posted:

See here:

From my understanding you have to be a LCCA member to view that, I am speaking for the time that the PDF (or interactive version) of the catalog will be available online.

@Prr7688 posted:

From my understanding you have to be a LCCA member to view that, I am speaking for the time that the PDF (or interactive version) of the catalog will be available online.

The link posted on the LCCA web page is lionel’s official YouTube open to anyone. I don’t see how it could be locked to LCCA Members only.

tomorrow at 3pm eastern, you should be able to find the stream here:

http://www.youtube.com/lionelmodeltrains

@Bob posted:

So is it true (like I heard at the hobby shop) that Lionel is dumping Legacy and all the LionChief flavors and putting DCS into all of its engines from now on?

That would be terrible!  DCS is a finicky pain in the butt compared to Legacy.  I want nothing to do with it!

@Allan Miller posted:

Yep!

Ah, I knew it. Allan has come out of retirement from the wrestling ring to take on all comers with has patented throttle thumb to the eye. Allan wins the major titles once again to be CHAMPION OF THE WORLD(cue echo effect).

Dang Allan, what bad timing, lol. 5PM is way to early for me, I get off at work at 5. Well, unless you count the last two days. Tonight I clocked out at 6:31. Had much work to do, and you know, get new money for new trains as old money is hidden under some rocks somewhere(don't bring a shovel).

This entire topic has actually been a great one as there has been no warnings from the moderators about naysayers, bad behavior or anything crazy like that, which is a welcome change.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Dang Allan, what bad timing, lol. 5PM is way to early for me, I get off at work at 5.

Truth be told, Dave, I have absolutely nothing to do with the timing. Just letting folks know that they might want to be around the forum at 5 pm this evening for an announcement of interest.

Dang.  Tonight is race night.  I'll be working the Port winch at 5PM.  BUT  I'll tune into YouTube and here ASAP!

Jon

@Allan Miller posted:

Yep!

No offense but rather than some obscure and veiled comment in a thread with 6 pages of replies in a Lionel catalog thread, wouldn't it be better served for OGR to make a featured post to tune in on 7/15/2021 for some exciting news?

While I got your attention there was also a comment on a York thread about wearing OGR gear and getting a surprise from OGR if you see us wearing gear but yet no link to the OGR store was provided.  Yes I know it's at the top of the page but it doesn't hurt to put the link in where you are asking us to "wear the gear"!

Just some thoughts as I see OGR could really self promote themselves within their own forum.

That being said Allan I will be "tuning in".  Thanks for the heads up.  I hope its as groundbreaking for the hobby as it is being promoted as.  We could use some good news.

@Allan Miller posted:

Truth be told, Dave, I have absolutely nothing to do with the timing. Just letting folks know that they might want to be around the forum at 5 pm this evening for an announcement of interest.

No worries Allan. I know you're not a clock maker. Now what interests me is you made no remark about wrestling, lol. My late coworker Gary used to joke about wrestling all the time. Miss him as he would be ready to step into the ring. I guess I'll have to catch the highlight reel if there is one. Thanks Allan.

Are they announcing that Mike Wolf will be the next President of Lionel?  When it comes to rumors, go big or go home!

@Madockawando posted:

Our they announcing that Mike Wolf will be the next President of Lionel?  When it comes to rumors, go big or go home!

Actually, it’s a merger - Lionwolf trains.

Here’s a rumor to start…

Just like MTH made the Lionel Corporate Tinplate, maybe Lionel will come out with a new line of ‘MTH Classics’ line using the MTH steam loco molds.  Just a thought.

It does seem that what ever the big announcement is, it it related somehow to MTH..

@Madockawando posted:

It does seem that what ever the big announcement is, it it related somehow to MTH..

I bought MTH and it's now "MartyE's Train House"  I saved a ton not making a new logo.  Or maybe it's staying "Mike's Train House". The movie "Twins" comes to mind.  LOL!

@Brian DeFazio posted:

That would be terrible!  DCS is a finicky pain in the butt compared to Legacy.  I want nothing to do with it!

I'm in the wrong business.  Let me figure this out.  Lionel is taking a system that works, has been upgraded board wise and also having the luxury of a hand held remote.

Now they weill run a system with sounds that are not as good, older boards and the special feature of no  remote or remote support.  Where do I sign? 

Unfortunately, there may be truth here.  The moderators have not shut down the conversation.  Maybe they know something.  We'll find out later today.

@Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:

I'm in the wrong business.  Let me figure this out.  Lionel is taking a system that works, has been upgraded board wise and also having the luxury of a hand held remote.

Now they weill run a system with sounds that are not as good, older boards and the special feature of no  remote or remote support.  Where do I sign?

Unfortunately, there may be truth here.  The moderators have not shut down the conversation.  Maybe they know something.  We'll find out later today.

Boys, boys,

I really don’t think Lionel will be junking their whole Legacy System. If I remember correctly, Atlas purchased all the rights to MTH’s DCS and ProtoSound systems, right? Perhaps Lionel will be working with Atlas to make it compatible with Legacy so it can run on their Lionel’s system too? We’ll find out... 🤷‍♂️

@N&WGuy posted:

I really don’t think Lionel will be junking their whole Legacy System. If I remember correctly, Atlas purchased all the rights to MTH’s DCS and ProtoSound systems, right? - No, Atlas now license DCS from a company split off from MTH. Liobel, could technically license DCS, but that would not be with atlas. Perhaps Lionel will be working with Atlas to make it compatible with Legacy so it can run on their Lionel’s system too? We’ll find out... 🤷‍♂️

My guess is Lionel had no interest in anything having to do with DCS. The systems work completely differently and Lionel probably believes TMCC/Legacy is superior.

Lionel has been investing heavily in their app/bluetooth. They would likely go down that road before DCS.

What would be cool would be if the Cab - 2 remote could be used to control Lionchief  as some tinkerers have demonstrated on this forum. Having several remotes is a pain.

Finally, the big – game changing announcement – could be that Lionel figured out how to enhance the end-user experience by having pieces not fall off the model when you open the box for the first time.