Lionel Legacy Pacifics

I wanna see them!!!!

I will post a pic of my NP (if it shows up).  I didnt see it listed on shipper to my dealer yet...  but some folks think they are on the way...

I have the Lionel Reading & Northern coming in from RO.  So I will put pics up too. 

I already saw some appearing on eBay.

Now the Pacifics are appearing in stores. Let's have a look at them!

Hope to get mine tomorrow nite.  Will post the NP.

Did any of dealers receive their Pacifics yet?  If so, please showcase them.

Still waiting on my R&N from RO. 

I ended up ordering a 425 and the R&N stationsound diner. Should have both Monday 

Lets see 425!!!!

Trainworld has them; ready to Add to Cart!  I have got to get more money.

https://www.trainworld.com/sea...=lionel+usra+pacific

After a 5hr drive to and back from LHS, im not likely to upload a picture tonite...  maybe later if i feel better.  What usually takes 2.5hrs was alot longer in traffic...

just got RO today

Turbine and Bob - do they run???

Ok...  here is Pacific!  I love it!!!!

Bob, those look great!! Thanks for the photos! That GN is eye catching

Any chance you could add a short video of the Pacific and Mallets? Would love to hear them.

Surefire posted:

Bob, those look great!! Thanks for the photos! That GN is eye catching

Any chance you could add a short video of the Pacific and Mallets? Would love to hear them.

I pulled the mallet pics off this pacific post...  i just started a 2-6-6-2 post so we can keep this post to pacifics!

What does the whistle sound like? Different bell sound I hope than the 4-4-2s?

@T1Titan_ZachF posted:

What does the whistle sound like? Different bell sound I hope than the 4-4-2s?

Yep, me too!  Saw this video on Youtube but don't know if the new Pacific is similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jj-Ku-FyBc

Video is the Light Mikado, DOH!

...only to say that I agree with you; the Q6 is a stout-looking machine.

Mark in Oregon

J Daddy posted:

I have always been a BIG NP fan. Even hiked some of the NP main line in Montana. But I passed on this Lionel version. Was this an attempt at the NP's larger class Q6 4-6-2? It just misses the mark all together. I guess I will have to wait for a 3rd rail version, or maybe a brass Hybrid

 

The Q-6 Pacific was one of my favorite locomotives. Note the unique smoke tunnel cap, sand domes, bell position, large pilot wheels, heavy boiler,  missing feed water heater, and stout head lamp. Some were even painted with grey boilers as well.  What really is a bummer is they have the wrong valve gear and side rods on it 

Maybe another NP fan can chime in here?

J, this is typical of the big 3. This is a model of USRA Pacific. Only handful of Railroads got them, heavy or light. Not the NP. It appears the one you pictured is unique to NP. Maybe 3rd Rail will do one or maybe Lionel will do a hybrid but if they do a hybrid it would likely have the USRA drive. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Pete

At some point you guys have to just quit 3 rail and go to HO brass.  Thats the only way you will get the details you desire.

If you look hard enough, even the best o scale engines are not like the real engines.  There are way too many details on the real engines that just cant be replicated in any economy on a model selling 50 copies.

This is a fantasy scheme engine, to offer a painted model for NP fans, which there are very few of.

A train company just cant make a buisness case for specialized tooling for a few copies of an obscure engine that only two or three guys would order...

Still, any videos with sound and whistle of the new Pacific?

Hi rick...  i will thisafternoon...  i get out of work early today... 

Thanks Bob, will keep an eye out.

I should get a video by about 3pm...

Super O Bob posted:

At some point you guys have to just quit 3 rail and go to HO brass.  Thats the only way you will get the details you desire.

If you look hard enough, even the best o scale engines are not like the real engines.  There are way too many details on the real engines that just cant be replicated in any economy on a model selling 50 copies.

This is a fantasy scheme engine, to offer a painted model for NP fans, which there are very few of.

A train company just cant make a buisness case for specialized tooling for a few copies of an obscure engine that only two or three guys would order...

 

 

Going to HO is NOT an option for most of us like me. I think Lionel was on the right track with its Hybrid brass locomotive, however on round 2 of making the K2a N&W they picked a locomotive too close to the J, thus the low orders.

My point is why make a horrible fantasy item that almost insults the NP fan. This is not really helping the railroad modeling community. I still remember the NP version of the EM-1 from Lionel and almost fell off my chair. Next will be a UP challenger with a NP road name on it? 

less than 10 railroads had URSA type Pacific's. Why not just make those and move on? 

John...  i agree about the 2nd brass hybrid engine...  i didnt have the urge to get one.

My point is the production volumes in HO are so much larger, a company can do specialized scale brass items.  In O they just cant.

So you can't hold the O scale companies, to the HO standard...

The NP Em1 was also intended for the few customers who just wanted a EM1 in NP...  i have one and love it.  There was at least 25 of us who got that NP EM1.  The few fantasy schemes help to fill out the production run.

Got the R&N stationsounds today 

Here are some quick videos on the NP Pacific...  i forgot to ding the bell...  sorry...

Sounds like they used 425's whistle. Good news, I was hoping they would. Thanks for the videos 

Its a wonderful whistle!  

NICE WHISTLE

Does anyone have the R&N 425 or A&WP 290?

Bob, thanks for the videos!!  Compared to the rest of my locomotives, that whistle is unique - not bad!

Peter Araujo posted:

Does anyone have the R&N 425 or A&WP 290?

Me too, especially a video on the A&WP 290.

Surefire posted:

Got the R&N stationsounds today 

Could you add a video of the R&N stationsounds car

Along with the locomotives?

I did not pay much attention to these when they came out; nice, but not on my radar, as I'm about full.

Is the tooling based on the too-long B&O, Erie and Chicago & Alton Pacifics from the past? I think Lionel made a too-long PRR K-4 using this chassis, too, before switching to the K-Line tooling. The photos above do seem to show a loco that is too long in the firebox area for a Pacific. (I turned my TMCC "Erie" into a Hudson; waiting on re-lettering; makes a great freelance 4-6-4.)

I have the TMCC C&A 4-6-2; beautiful loco, but it's the length of the Lionel scale USRA Mountain.