GGD Missouri Pacific EAGLES. (MP T&P passenger trains)

A proper GGD Colorado Eagle has been top of my list for a while! I’m in for a set and I’m thinking at least 2-3 of my local St. Louis customers would be too! 

Also, don’t forget the PA’s are an option to pull this beauty as well! 

Yep.  I would be all over that.

Oops yes forgot to mention Alco Pa. 

The PRR carried through sleepers to both MP and T&P destinations via St. Louis trains from New York.  PRR sleepers assigned to this service were painted in Texas Special and MP Eagle colors ( much in the same way a PRR sleeper was lettered for California Zephyr service).  I particularly like the MP Eagle scheme on PRR ACF built 10-6 sleepers.  I’d be down for either scheme with PRR lettering.  I’d also purchase a MP blue and gray lightweight baggage car as they were often found on PRR mail and express trains.

With GGD F-3s N deM I would like to create this train. 

@boilermaker posted:

With GGD F-3s N deM I would like to create this train. 

Thanks for this input. Yes there were thru sleepers from MP TP that connected at Laredo Texas. I’ve Also read that N de M sleepers went north into US. My reference books are packed for a move so I can’t add any detailed info. 
Specific cars for this could become nice adds to our consists.  

@Keystoned Ed posted:

The PRR carried through sleepers to both MP and T&P destinations via St. Louis trains from New York.  PRR sleepers assigned to this service were painted in Texas Special and MP Eagle colors ( much in the same way a PRR sleeper was lettered for California Zephyr service).  I particularly like the MP Eagle scheme on PRR ACF built 10-6 sleepers.  I’d be down for either scheme with PRR lettering.  I’d also purchase a MP blue and gray lightweight baggage car as they were often found on PRR mail and express trains.

Yes. These Thru sleepers are exactly the Kind of extras that I’d want to see. I don’t remember seeing Scott offer extra baggage cars before .... but why not do   it !!!!!!  
For me 
For extra head end I have GGD heavyweight T&P and Pullman baggage cars in green plus a nice Atlas T&P blue/grey express box car -  and then there’s Atlas 53’ MP and T&P express reefers. Man could we put together a cool consist. 

I would be in for a set with a dome & a PRR run through sleeper. It would be nice if a short run of some kind of matching E unit was announced with this set. 

Also to mention I have 2 friends that would be all over this set as well. I don’t think 50 reservations would be a problem. 

I would support a 3rd rail/GGD eagle. E6s for me please.

@Rob English posted:

I would support a 3rd rail/GGD eagle. E6s for me please.

Scott’s E6s are sweet. The E5,6s Need a run 2. Run 2 would be nice for those that missed run 1. I’d be looking for an extra variant with one in Jenks Blue. Would be nice with some “extra” cars Also in Jenks blue. Builds a later consist that interesting. The Colorado Eagle also had unique nose decoration. I don’t know how long it lasted but it makes it different from the Texas Eagle. I think it was on the 6 and I’ve seen it in later E’s. 

oops !!! Dropped the E6 in wrong spot but it shows nice. ( I bet I screw this up at least half the time.) The nose shot is MTH model. Look carefully to see unique markings. But This model had wrong square side windows. 3rd Rail model much nicer and correct. 

@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

Also to mention I have 2 friends that would be all over this set as well. I don’t think 50 reservations would be a problem.

Great !!! Pass the word to them !!! Get them to post on this forum thread !!!  Getting “loud” Is the only way we can get this to be considered by Scott.
Thanks !!!

TrainBub

@TrainBub posted:

Great !!! Pass the word to them !!! Get them to post on this forum thread !!!  Getting “loud” Is the only way we can get this to be considered by Scott. 
Thanks !!!

TrainBub 

Or,,,,,,,,,,you could eMail Scott Mann directly at Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot.

@Hot Water posted:

Or,,,,,,,,,,you could eMail Scott Mann directly at Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot.

Or...

you could do both so Scott knows and others know that there are many out there who would be in for this set; especially if and E6 rerun provides the possibility of a full train.

I would imagine SF reservations alone could come close to supporting an E6 rerun with the ‘38-‘47 SC moving on along. 

@Hot Water posted:

Or,,,,,,,,,,you could eMail Scott Mann directly at Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot.

Definitely contact friends, get them to post here,

and definitely Email Scott!!!!!!

@TrainBub posted:

Definitely contact friends, get them to post here,

In all honesty, post here many times doesn't swing much weight. The key is direct contact with Scott, and making a commitment to reserve/order such a train set. In other words, "money talks"!

and definitely Email Scott!!!!!!

Definitely the best method.

A GGD Eagle would be a terrific choice.  There are a lot of locomotives out there to pull this:  Lionel, MTH, and 3rd Rail.  I don't think the locomotives need to be re-done, just the passenger cars.  I would love to see a dome car in the set.  Were those only on the Colorado Eagle?

Email Scott.  I’ll support with an order (for E6’s too).

I helped with support for the N de M F3’s (should be here soon).

-Brian

You got my vote!!  Can’t get enough of the old MOPAC!!  Miss those screaming eagles 😕

I'm in. @sdmann

@TrainBub posted:

Anybody else out there interested in a Golden Gate Depot MP / T&P passenger  train run ??? Specifically the “EAGLE”.  This beautiful but Neglected train has not been Correctly/nicely done Before. Scott has said 50 sets are doable. There are soooo many options with the EAGLE !!!!  Colorado Eagle with domes, Texas Eagle with TWO consists - one for MP and one for T&P. Most differences only named cars and numbers. Thru sleepers from NYC, Penn, B&O possible and even Mexican sleeper pick up in Laredo. Other extras could be painted in Jenks blue. How cool would it be to run a mixed MP TP consist, throw in some Jenks blue cars, add GGD heavyweight TP car, head up with a 3rd Rail E6 or 8 ???
The Eagles covered a lot of territory and serviced quiet a few big cities. Surely there are 50 3rail 2rail fans out there to try to make this happen.
What do you have to say ?????? 

Respectfully

TrainBubYou helped support the forums pleas for Slumbercoaches. I'm in for the Eagle! My great-grandfather spent many years on the Chicago & Eastern Illinois and the Missouri Pacific. Not many sets that would be more fitting than the Eagles!

@VistaDomeScott posted:

Yes, but I hope I have all the Amtrak cars paid off by then!

Well I bet if this flies, it would be at least a year from now Before we would see them. 
TrainBub

I am in and would be a set so long as I could represent the Aztec Eagle.  I  emailed Scott to let him know.  If you are interested I would suggest you email him too, thank you!

N de M F-3s arriving soon. 

If the Jenks blue paint scheme is available on separate sale cars, a whole world of options is possible for MP/TP trains.  

They even had Jenks blue domes!

When did protoype Colorado Eagle run (years)?  Would probably at least want some cars...

@colorado hirailer posted:

When did protoype Colorado Eagle run (years)?  Would probably at least want some cars...

You might try a Google search. Found lots of information, especially Wikipedia.

@colorado hirailer posted:

When did protoype Colorado Eagle run (years)?  Would probably at least want some cars...

I believe 1942-1966. 

@TrainBub posted:

I believe 1942-1966. 

Not according to what the Google search turned up, on Wikipedia. But then I didn't spend a lot of time researching it, since I'm not really interested in a train set.

@Hot Water posted:

Not according to what the Google search turned up, on Wikipedia. But then I didn't spend a lot of time researching it, since I'm not really interested in a train set.

I floated an approximation. Is close enough for on the fly. 

@Hot Water posted:

Not according to what the Google search turned up, on Wikipedia. But then I didn't spend a lot of time researching it, since I'm not really interested in a train set.

The intent will also to offer extra single cars. Not just a “ train set “

@BigJohn&theWork posted:

If the Jenks blue paint scheme is available on separate sale cars, a whole world of options is possible for MP/TP trains.  

They even had Jenks blue domes!

I did see a Jenks blue domeon the TE stoped at the station in New Braunfels TX. 

 

@T4TT posted:

I am in and would be a set so long as I could represent the Aztec Eagle.  I  emailed Scott to let him know.  If you are interested I would suggest you email him too, thank you!

MISSOURI PACIFIC-NATIONAL RAILWAYS de MEXICO
ST. LOUIS - MEXICO CITY
Through Air-Conditioned Trains—
Modernized Service
EQUIPMENT—Through Pullman Sleepers, 10-Section, 2 Compartments, 1 Drawing-room and 8-Section, 5 Double Bedroom—also A.C. Reclining Chair Cars and Dining Lounge Cars on Trains 1 and 2 between San Antonio and Mexico City, connecting at San Antonio with the Texas Eagle of the Missouri Pacific.

@T4TT posted:

I am in and would be a set so long as I could represent the Aztec Eagle.  I  emailed Scott to let him know.  If you are interested I would suggest you email him too, thank you!

MISSOURI PACIFIC-NATIONAL RAILWAYS de MEXICO
ST. LOUIS - MEXICO CITY
Through Air-Conditioned Trains—
Modernized Service
EQUIPMENT—Through Pullman Sleepers, 10-Section, 2 Compartments, 1 Drawing-room and 8-Section, 5 Double Bedroom—also A.C. Reclining Chair Cars and Dining Lounge Cars on Trains 1 and 2 between San Antonio and Mexico City, connecting at San Antonio with the Texas Eagle of the Missouri Pacific.

Aztec EAGLE fans. NDM had Alco FPA-2 for the Eagle in mid 50’s. I Think it may be a FA-2 with a steam boiler added for passenger service. If no external differences, perhaps Scott can add it to FA offering !!! Perhaps you Aztec Eagle Fans know more about this. All can see Picture on “Classicstreamliners.com”. (I avoid copyright probs here). It’s in black n white but should be quite beautiful - Pullman green with red stripe and orange nose decoration that has red pin stripes.  Email Scott to let him know if you’d be interested.

EAGLE research continues  !!!

TrainBub

1942 is not close enough, if you are modeling 1940...AND did these cars, Eagle cars, ever run behind steam?  And would Mopac/NdeM cars have shown up on C&S run north to Denver out of Texas?

Further brief and hurried Wik. research indicates "Eagles" (Colorado?) began in 1940 but "Scenic Limited" operated until Eagles were introduced, this on Mopac and Rio Grande.  Some railroads used earlier cars on later name trains, so l wonder if any of the Eagle cars ran on the earlier Scenic Limited?  Just wondering what is real in 1940.....

Coincidentally, my new issue of the MoPac Historical Society magazine arrived in the mail yesterday.  Check out the cover...

@MikeH posted:

Coincidentally, my new issue of the MoPac Historical Society magazine arrived in the mail yesterday.  Check out the cover...

How timely. I was at my local train shop within last 20 days and this issue wasn’t there yet. I will definitely pick up. 
Thanks

TrainBub

Looks like an issue that'd answer questions....any, if existed, "local train shops", wouldn't have this western road..

I'm down for the Texas Eagle. I have seen pictures of planetarium domes in Austin and San Antonio, Texas so they were definitely used on the Texas Eagle. I have been looking for an excuse to buy the matching PA's that Lionel recently did. Lionel has some of the through cars in their most recent catalog.