PASSENGER TRAINS - Let's See Them!

@ScoutingDad posted:

Passenger Car question for the group. If you had seven or eight 70ft passenger cars which are supposed to take 042 curves (3 rail, high rail wheels), and there is a through track configuration:

• How long would you make a passenger station? At least five car lengths allowing for two head end cars
• How long would you make a passenger terminal? How much room do you have?

While a thru multiple track terminal might be ideal, if it had to be dead ended:

• How many cars could you back into the terminal before there would be derailing problems?
• Since you would also have to back into the terminal through a curve would 042 be OK, or would you need to plan for a much larger curve? If you used an O-72 + track switch you should have no problems.  A sign of good track is you can go as fast in reverse as forward.     John

@ScoutingDad posted:

Passenger Car question for the group. If you had a 7 or 8 car 70ft passenger car consist which is supposed to take 042 curves (3 rail, high rail wheels), and there is a through track configuration:

• How long would you make a passenger station?
  Depends on how much real-estate you have. If you can, I would make it for 7+ car since most 18" sets are somewhere around 7-9 cars total (main set plus add-ons)
  
  
• How long would you make a passenger terminal?
  Same as the above answer
  
  

While a thru multiple track terminal might be ideal, if it had to be dead ended:

• How many cars could you back into the terminal before there would be derailing problems?
• Since you would also have to back into the terminal through a curve would 042 be OK, or would you need to plan for a much larger curve?
  If you use wide turnouts (0-72) and are going at a low speed, I do not see any issues. I tried backing my 70' cars onto a siding with an 0-42 switch and it derailed even at low speed. When I swapped it for 0-72, no more issues (I use MTH RealTrax)
  
  

Would there be any operational differences between diesels or steamers?
In theory? none. In my personal experience, steam engines prefer wider curves than recommended when backing through switches. 

And would there be a difference between Madison heavy weight (3 wheel trucks) and lightweight (2 wheel trucks) cars?
In theory? none. For both my 2 and 3 wheel trucked 70' passenger cars, they run great on 0-42 curves and can go through my 0-72 switches with ease at prototypical speeds (unless I do something dumb).

@Bill Webb and I had this question posed on another thread. This seemed like the best place for answers / suggestions / opinions   

As an aside - for my future layout - I am considering having an island/peninsula multi track dead-end terminal, with access through a wye. On exit I could go either direction, but would have to back in through the wye. Or this could be a lower level along a long wall.  I can easily run my long consist through switches going forward, but haven't really considered a long back-up.

Hope this helps answer your questions!

Bryce

I posted this as a separate video this morning but thought I would also list it here for the guys.

Donald

Pride Lines City of Denver, with two B units, all 3 powered units controlled with two ERRCo TMCC boards incl sound (second board set for second B unit located in mail/express car).  Passing through what will be West Chicago, eastbound to arrival at C&NW Chicago Passenger Terminal.

@3rail posted:

I posted this as a separate video this morning but thought I would also list it here for the guys.

Donald

Really nice looking layout Don.   Nice passenger trains too.

My eyes were drawn to the layout's corn field .    I did a couple canvases of this older guy's farm and it was interesting to try to get the corn field looking good.   

Your corn field looks really great.

@Dallas Joseph posted:

Really nice looking layout Don.   Nice passenger trains too.

My eyes were drawn to the layout's corn field .    I did a couple canvases of this older guy's farm and it was interesting to try to get the corn field looking good.   

Your corn field looks really great.

Thank you Dallas. Much appreciated!
Don

Latest Amtrak run at the CNY NHRS layout...

Thanks!

- Mario

A couple different passenger trains

The bell on that Santa Fe Northern is certainly a beauty - so clear and crisp. Has the ring of a real bell, not the mechanical clank of so many others.  :-)

WOW what super passenger trains, true scale, sound, smooth operation.  @CentralFan 1976 that was a great video of the Amtrak trains and that viaduct is fabulous.  The 3rail /Don UP Alco,cnwdon City of Denver, and farmerjohn's station scene were just great!  So what can I possibly contribute in the face of such artistry?  Well how about taking a little time travel trip?

Suppose you are a young child and its 1932, the depths of the Great Depression,and you are not expecting much for Christmas as you know things are tough for Mom and Dad.  Then suddenly you find that Santa has left you with a marvelous present...The 1932-34 Joy Line clockwork passenger set and a circle of track, enough to go around the tree.  Wow imagine how you might feel.  Sound? - Well you can "cho cho" with the best of them.  Whistle? - well little brother might help.  Station Announcements?- Easy, train stops fairly often to get rewound.

Hope you enjoyed our little time travel trip.  Best Wishes for a good, happy, and healthy week

Don

It’s so easy to forget the delight of our “first passenger train,” partly because we may have been too young to remember the experience after growing up, and because all our modern “toys” are bigger and better (??).  In the 1950s, those Santa Fe F3’s and the aluminum streamliner to go with them exceeded Dad’s budget, but he knew how much I loved them.  So my “first passenger train” was just a single 15 inch aluminum baggage car (no, not the desirable large-door version, just an ordinary one).  I loved that thing and parked it here and there on our 5x9 ping pong table layout for years, as the second train, a base-level General set, ran around it.  Now, that baggage car remains at the headend of my much-expanded Super Chief-an honored elder.  The General still has an honored display spot too.  Thanks for bringing back those memories.

Don

@3rail posted:

I posted this as a separate video this morning but thought I would also list it here for the guys.

Donald

What a great layout!

I have been loving all of the passenger trains people have been sharing.
Here’s my Southern Pacific passenger train. The engine is a cab forward, or as the SP guys used to call them, a Mallee.

@WP posted:

I have been loving all of the passenger trains people have been sharing.
Here’s my Southern Pacific passenger train. The engine is a cab forward, or as the SP guys used to call them, a Mallee.

Very nice WP, I like it! And AC-12 Cab Forwards did pull passenger trains! Very successful locomotive.

B&O passenger train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO0urkpfDhs

Milwaukee passenger train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5pLpUtumpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7q7462DY4s&t=7s

@samparfitt posted:

B&O passenger train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO0urkpfDhs

@samparfitt

These are GREAT photos and videos. What scale are these trains, 2-rail O scale or HO?

Thanks for the kind comments.

They are HO.

The layout is 43 years old.

My video library:

https://www.youtube.com/user/s...rt=dd&shelf_id=0

SF E-1 A-B unit passenger train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3DpGQCUwY

UP E-6 A-B-B passenger train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgg5EVD6yJs

Here’s my fav.  All original Blue Comet 390E with blue baby states in tow.

My MTH Union Pacific 4014 with a string of Williams 18" streamliners. This train very nearly ouroboroses itself on my tiny home layout but will likely look much better on my club's layouts.

Latest run of GGD Daylight express passenger cars pulled by an MTH Premier GS4

Been working on building a California Zephyr. Engine is from Weaver custom painted and detail by Bob Milli. Just added ERR Cruise and Railsounds. Cars are Atlas. I have more but can only fit a few on my test track. Engines and cars are from various forum members. Thank you all.

Pete

Gentlemen, Thanks to all who had a hand in posting such great videos and pictures.

@WesternPacific2217 posted:

Very nice WP, I like it! And AC-12 Cab Forwards did pull passenger trains! Very successful locomotive.

Thank you Scott!

John (WP)

All great stuff here, kids. Keep them coming!

As for me... Thanks to the fantastic inventory of Jeff's The Train Loft, I was able to add a full second Phase III Amfleet consist to my collection, and here's the results.

Thanks!

- Mario

NYC Hudsons going hard !

Still looking for these four cars that complete the set in the video  

From the past.........heading back to the city after a weekend touring the historical sites in the Twin Bridges area.

........MTH  Pennsy train  wit GRJ's LED light modules in passenger cars.

Running O scale on the club garden railway.

@Dallas Joseph posted:

From the past.........heading back to the city after a weekend touring the historical sites in the Twin Bridges area.

........MTH  Pennsy train  wit GRJ's LED light modules in passenger cars.

Like Your fall colors, sharp layout and the packed Passenger cars. God Speed! Mark

A B&M Milk and Passenger Extra rolls into Keene NH in 2008 on my friend's former O Scale Cheshire Branch RR.

Thank you Mark.        Have to have those passenger cars packed for much needed revenue to finance this RR.

Spring brings out the Rocky Mountaineer...MTH version.

Excellent thread and intimidating photography!  I finally got out some passenger sets to contribute. RF&P and ACL meeting in Richmond (or somewhere?)  Passenger trains are more impressive in the dark.

A quick clip of WP Zephyr. Santa Fe El Capitan at the station.

Rusty

Well everyone, these are beautiful passenger trains.  I thought I might take a slightly different path just for some fun today.  This is a passenger train from a completely different era, the beginning and passage to the depths of the Great Depression. This is "outfit" in Lionel terms or "set" to us today # 292 available from 1929 -1932.  Lionel exited the 20's flying along and by '32 was facing bankruptcy and was placed in receivership and struggling to survive by Joshua Lionel Cowen in 1934.  So depending on when this showed up under your Christmas tree it was either one of many outfits in the line or one of the few left that Lionel was counting on to survive.

Outfit # 292 consisted on the #248 locomotive and the #629 Pullman and #630 Observation Car...all in Red / Cream livery.

Here it is using my Iphone close up feature. Note the figure in the back is a Barclay 0 gauge mechanic getting a drink of water.

Well best wishes everyone.  Great photos all and thanks for posting

Don

Oh boy. Recent additions…

thanks!

- Mario

California Zephyr rolling out of Paradise behind WP GS-64 #485.