Southern RR Fans- PHOTOS

lionel89 posted:

KJSTRAINS, you are in luck.  3rd rail is doing the 610 in Southern livery.  But, it has a hefty price tag. 

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#TP2104

Thanks for posting the link  That would be a beautiful  and detailed engine to own.  I don't have any brass engines and I know they are very fragile.  I wonder if they get enough orders to produce it.  On other hand, it probably only requires road name change so they might still fulfill those orders if they only get a few orders.

PRRronbh posted:

kjstrains posted:

Thomas

 

 

Hi-Rail Wheels below

Scale Version Below.

 It appears not too many dealers order these.  I guess not too many are interested. 

Interesting, the Hi-Rail is more prototypically correct! 

Ron

Ron,

For this reason I was wanting to see this engine up close to see if MTH only put the cab number on the engine.  One dealer online shows the cab number with the city below it for the Hi-Rail Wheel version which makes it somewhat confusing what MTH did.     Ken

Credit Norfolk Southern photo

Here is close-up video of the MTH Southern 4501 Mikado in the black version.  MTH did better job than I thought.

From my post above about the Cab lettering of the MTH Engine...at one time this is what the lettering of the cab of 4501 looked liked.   So MTH did it right for when it looked like this.  

Hello guys and gals

I  seen some Southern painted model trains such as the Lionel # 18301 FM diesel and the bottom part of the body is silver an top is green with gold pin stripes, is that correct color instead of white for the band around the body?   My Railking NW-2 Southern has the white band around the body so did Southern do that both ways ?

Tiffany

Picked up my 4501 today from Stockyard express - has a great sounding whistle!

Tiffany posted:

Hello guys and gals

I  seen some Southern painted model trains such as the Lionel # 18301 FM diesel and the bottom part of the body is silver an top is green with gold pin stripes, is that correct color instead of white for the band around the body?   My Railking NW-2 Southern has the white band around the body so did Southern do that both ways ?

Tiffany

Tiffany,

That Lionel model is not correct for a Southern Railway green scheme. The white band is actually imitation aluminium, and usually has a gray tint to it. That may be why Lionel chose silver for the color.

kjstrains posted:

M J Breen posted:

Picked up my 4501 today from Stockyard express - has a great sounding whistle!

 

The engine looks and sounds great!  I will be getting the green version soon.  Thanks for sharing.  

Larry Neal posted:

Tiffany posted:

Hello guys and gals

I  seen some Southern painted model trains such as the Lionel # 18301 FM diesel and the bottom part of the body is silver an top is green with gold pin stripes, is that correct color instead of white for the band around the body?   My Railking NW-2 Southern has the white band around the body so did Southern do that both ways ?

Tiffany

Tiffany,

That Lionel model is not correct for a Southern Railway green scheme. The white band is actually imitation aluminium, and usually has a gray tint to it. That may be why Lionel chose silver for the color

Hello Larry Neal

thank you, I am learning

Tiffany

RidgeRunner posted:

Credit Norfolk Southern photo

 

Sweet. I love that shot.

630 was my first cab ride ever, at the age of 12. My parent saw her daily as ET&WNC # 207. Here she is at the Bemberg (Elizabethton, TN) water tower:

4501, I only saw at the age of 4, when it pulled a very rare ferry run over Seaboard Coast Line tracks through Tallahassee, to Jacksonville in 1974. I've only seen her after that while undergoing restoration in 2012.

Better still, I'll be riding behind one of these locomotives next month, maybe both if the train is long enough!

This a great video to learn about the history of 4501.  This was posted on another thread but I thought some of you Southern fans would enjoy this.  

KJSTRAINS:

Thank you for posting the video.  It was really well done and informative.  

What a great bit of history!  Especially for a fan of the Southern and of steam engines.

Happy railroading,

Don

@KJSTRAINS: Excellent and informative video! Learned a lot more about the 4501. Thank you for posting.     

Here is MTH New 4501 in the green version.  It beautiful engine.  MTH did a good job on the details.  The whistle sounds great and is different from other MTH Southern Steam Locos.  The quilling whistle is the same as the MTH Southern Crescent Limited and Kanawha.  The Passanger Sound Announcements are on the history of Engine and Excursion type of announcements. 

kjstrains posted:

Here is MTH New 4501 in the green version.  It beautiful engine.  MTH did a good job on the details.  The whistle sounds great and is different from other MTH Southern Steam Locos.  The quilling whistle is the same as the MTH Southern Crescent Limited and Kanawha.  The Passanger Sound Announcements are on the history of Engine and Excursion type of announcements. 

 

Hello guys and gals.

WOW, LOVE the green and gold on this engine. It really a good looking engine !!!

Tiffany

Thanks so much for posting the 4501 video KJSTRAINS.

As i approach my 85th year I am very appreciative that i got to see and ride steam trains frequently during my lifetime. Bill Purdie, a true steam locomotive magician, was a hero to many of us who rode the early excursions. My first trip behind steam was with Mom at 6 months old in 1932 from Madison, N.C. to Columbus and then on to Dennison, Ohio via the N&W to visit my maternal grandparents. 

Just revived my MTH 2 Rail 4501 yesterday. Wow, what a beautiful model!

I'm overall very pleased with it. But I did have to make a few modifications.

I gave the wheels white walls with a white Sharpie paint pen. I really think it make them pop. Beforehand they got lost in all the black paint. 

I also painted the check valve silver, as I've seen regularly on Southern steam.

Next I plan on adding the fingernail overhang on the headlamp. I don't know if I want to fabricate the overhang itself out of brass or styrene, or just source a whole new brass headlamp piece.

That's a really nice nice job you've done here Ben - the little touchups make a big difference!

Does anyone have both of these and can post photos of the black  & green together?

It's not 4501, but here is the MTH black Southern Mikado from a few years back.

Just got my new Ms.

Ben

Nice Ms Mikado comparison photos of the paint schemes.  Just as trivia info, the prototype for Ms 4762 was built by Baldwin for Southern in 1912 and retired August, 1951. Love those Mikes.

ps: adding a "fingernail visor" to your Mike a is terrific idea Ben. Master Mechanics at both Pegram Shops Atlanta and Spencer Shop added the visor on Ps-4s  initially and ultimately subsidiary lines with Ps-2s, 4-6-0s and many freight engines copied the idea. 

Southern Railway SD45 at the Lionel booth at York.

Neal Jeter

Lionlman posted:

Southern Railway SD45 at the Lionel booth at York.

Neal Jeter

I did notice today that the engineer figures were facing the "correct" direction.

Wow! That MSRP on the Lionel Southern SD45 made my knees buckle............

I ordered mine from Brian at Legacy Station.  On preorder they are $519.00.

Neal Jeter 

Lionel Legacy Southern Railway H16-44s

Neal Jeter

I recently picked up some unusual Southern passenger cars through an on-line auction. First seems to be a Gold Gate Depot RPO that has been re-lettered. Second and third are from Phoenix Railways, an squared off end observation and custom baggage. Does anyone know more about these?

3rd Rail Southern Railway SD9

Neal Jeter

New from Atlas O 40' double door boxcar.

Neal Jeter

Here is a Red Caboose GP-9 that I fit to a modified MTH Rail King GP-9 chassis. Tagging along is an Atlas Trainman bay window caboose re-worked to more closely resemble those of the Southern. I used True Color paint and Microscale decals on both. Weathering is a combination of pan pastels, oil paints, and pigments. This is my first time posting a picture so I'm hoping it works!

JoeDaddy, great work on the GP9 and caboose.  Below are some new MTH Railking releases.

Thanks Lionlman! 

Nice work joedaddy.

Some more recent MTH Railking releases.

I was kind of surprised that Lionel did not number their new Light Mikado 4501 in their 2017 catalog.  I would think putting 4501 on the engine would make it a better seller.  This is probably the old K-line tooling from the previous run a several years back?  On that run, they forgot to put the builder plates on the engines. 

The SD40 looks like it will be nice but it appears to be similar to SD45 which should be shipping some time in the next several months. 

I don't have any plans of purchase either of these engines, but I was curious if anyone will be? 

Ken,

I am purchasing neither of those engines, though I do think they'll do a good job on the high hood SD40. The Mikado, yes, does feel like a missed opportunity to decorate it in its current black scheme. Maybe Lionel thinks the market is getting saturated with 4501's, but I don't think so, especially not in black.

I'm gonna opt for the NKP one anyways.

Scratch one engine from the roster

kjstrains posted:

I was kind of surprised that Lionel did not number their new Light Mikado 4501 in their 2017 catalog.  I would think putting 4501 on the engine would make it a better seller.  This is probably the old K-line tooling from the previous run a several years back?  On that run, they forgot to put the builder plates on the engines. 

The SD40 looks like it will be nice but it appears to be similar to SD45 which should be shipping some time in the next several months. 

I don't have any plans of purchase either of these engines, but I was curious if anyone will be? 

I think the 4501 would be a best seller if it was used with this tooling:

It's the only known tooling that's accurate to 4501 in O-Scale.  It would also need a new frame that supports the 4-wheel tender trucks.

The real SR 4758 was a USRA light Mike, which the 4501 is not.  It looks like Lionel has done their homework!