SouthernMike:
That is a great looking Southern RS-1. I do not remember seeing that model in the MTH catalog. I have been waiting to see the Southern RS_3 that is due out soon but after seeing several of MTH's RS_3 models and their RS-1 models, I really like the detail on the RS-1 much better.
Do you have the MTH item number for this engine or the catalog in which it was offered. I would like to find one.
Thanks and happy railroading,
Don
Don,its in the 2010 volume two catalog on page 33. Item #30-2985-1.
I'm still waiting on the GP9 on page 31 of the same catalog. If you want one of the RS-1s call Jeff at the Trainloft 336-760-9817. I know he has at least one more in stock,probably several. He usually gets extra of the Southern stuff that comes out.
I'm still waiting on the GP9 on page 31 of the same catalog. If you want one of the RS-1s call Jeff at the Trainloft 336-760-9817. I know he has at least one more in stock,probably several. He usually gets extra of the Southern stuff that comes out.
I'm waiting for the Altas O Southern RS-1 and a Atlas O Southern GP-9. Now that I had the chance to operate a Southern GP30. The GP30 is now on the I gota have this model on the top of my list.
On the MTH Southern RS-1:
Technically, I think the crew is in backwards, since they are facing the long hood. Even though the Southern may have marked the long end forward, most photos I have seen show the locomotive running short hood forward. I may reverse the crew on my locomotive (or at least have them facing opposite directions).
Also, the dummy unit, #406, is not correct. The A&EC only had one RS-1, and the only other Southern RS-1s came from the Tennessee Railroad, numbered 1-6 (and never received Southern paint that I know of). The dummy unit is still very nice, though.
I have my Southern RS-1 on layaway at my LHS along with some other goodies that arrived in March. Once I have it, I plan to tweak some of the details to make it as close to the 405 as possible.
Technically, I think the crew is in backwards, since they are facing the long hood. Even though the Southern may have marked the long end forward, most photos I have seen show the locomotive running short hood forward. I may reverse the crew on my locomotive (or at least have them facing opposite directions).
Also, the dummy unit, #406, is not correct. The A&EC only had one RS-1, and the only other Southern RS-1s came from the Tennessee Railroad, numbered 1-6 (and never received Southern paint that I know of). The dummy unit is still very nice, though.
I have my Southern RS-1 on layaway at my LHS along with some other goodies that arrived in March. Once I have it, I plan to tweak some of the details to make it as close to the 405 as possible.
Thank you SouthernMike for the information on the MTH Southern RS-1, I ordered one today and should have by mid next week. It looks like the MTH unit has about the same level of detail as the Atlas at about 1/2 the price.
Since I installed the Lionel Legacy system on my layout, I have not enjoyed running engines that have EOB speed control. The Legacy system creates a realistic acceleration rate for Lionel engines with speed control but the units with EOB add another layer of delayed acceleration making the response rate entirely too slow.
Happy Railroading,
Don
Since I installed the Lionel Legacy system on my layout, I have not enjoyed running engines that have EOB speed control. The Legacy system creates a realistic acceleration rate for Lionel engines with speed control but the units with EOB add another layer of delayed acceleration making the response rate entirely too slow.
Happy Railroading,
Don
MTH has just announced this Southern accessory which is an exclusive item for and by three dealers Imperial Trains, The Train Loft, and Roundhouse South.
Ron
Ron
PRRronbh, i'll have to order one of these water towers from the train loft!!...roger
That's should be a great item for a Yard. I'm looking for a big Southern logo decal to use on my Lionel Oil tanks.
I'm using the Water tank at Spencer as a prototype.
I'm using the Water tank at Spencer as a prototype.
Well I just got my 2 Southern SD45 and I have to say these locomotives look great!!! Now if I can get a set of GP30'S, SD40's and SD40-2(I might get 3 of those) I'll be in Southern Diesel Heaven....Sorry Dewey!
hey sean! dewey will get over it !!! (dewey's favorite sayings: those stinkin' diesels!!). also i'm waiting on my pre-ordered mth-premier norfolk-southern sd40-2 to come in. i may buy my first dummy engine to go along with my sd 40-2..............rogerw.
To the SRR Kudzu Klass---
I have been out of action since spring 2010 due to a disabling health issue, neither lurking nor posting on the Forum. Where are all of the Southern Railway folks/posters? Summer vacation is over ain't it?
Anyway I am finally taking up where I left off and plan to soon start ballasting track and installing/wiring Switchstand Lanterns on my much reduced layout in the attic[9x16].
ps: I assume no one has since imported a Heavy Mikado, specifically a Southern Ms-4[or a 2-10-2 S1 or Ls-2 2-8-8-2].
I have been out of action since spring 2010 due to a disabling health issue, neither lurking nor posting on the Forum. Where are all of the Southern Railway folks/posters? Summer vacation is over ain't it?
Anyway I am finally taking up where I left off and plan to soon start ballasting track and installing/wiring Switchstand Lanterns on my much reduced layout in the attic[9x16].
ps: I assume no one has since imported a Heavy Mikado, specifically a Southern Ms-4[or a 2-10-2 S1 or Ls-2 2-8-8-2].
Dewey:
I hope your health is better now. I'll post some more Southern photos in a few days. I'll have a surprise as well.
Neal Jeter
I hope your health is better now. I'll post some more Southern photos in a few days. I'll have a surprise as well.
Neal Jeter
Dewey, my hat's off to you for even being able to get under the layout at all. My General Manager is now doing that for me.
She wanted to know when does she get paid for this.
I said, "as soon as I do".
..we should start a contest maybe...who's got the most Medicare expenses in just one year..
She wanted to know when does she get paid for this.
I said, "as soon as I do".
..we should start a contest maybe...who's got the most Medicare expenses in just one year..
Dewey & Ginsaw after reading your Post's and knowing myself I think the OGR really means "Old Guy's Reading"
Ginsaw I have discovered what the "GOLDEN YEARS" really means when the Doctor's get ALL YOUR GOLD
Ginsaw I have discovered what the "GOLDEN YEARS" really means when the Doctor's get ALL YOUR GOLD
Popsrr/Ginsaw
I am beginning to believe that they are the "rusty years". But "rusty" beats the alternative and, most important, the trains are still running and I can remember the General Manager's name .
I am beginning to believe that they are the "rusty years". But "rusty" beats the alternative and, most important, the trains are still running and I can remember the General Manager's name .
I had a local sign company make a Southern Train Bulletin to put in the layout room.
Neal Jeter
Neal Jeter
Here's one for you Dewey and Popsrr, for when they ask how you're feeling -quote:Popsrr/Ginsaw
I am beginning to believe that they are the "rusty years". But "rusty" beats the alternative and, most important, the trains are still running and I can remember the General Manager's name .
"I'm still kicking, so you better not stand in front of me!"
..real nice train board, Neal..
Neal
That is a really ingenious idea and neat display for your train room. I especially like seeing General Joe and "The Tennessean" on the schedule.
ALL ABOARD!
ps: Wasn't Southern Diesel Motorcar namesake Joe Wheeler the General that served in both the Confederate Army during the War and Union Army postwar?
That is a really ingenious idea and neat display for your train room. I especially like seeing General Joe and "The Tennessean" on the schedule.
ALL ABOARD!
ps: Wasn't Southern Diesel Motorcar namesake Joe Wheeler the General that served in both the Confederate Army during the War and Union Army postwar?
Dewey:
Joe Wheeler was the only general in both the Confederate and U.S. Armies. He served in the U.S. Army after the Civil War and attained the rank of general in that army as well. His home has been restored and is next to the Southern/NS mainline between Courtland and Decatur, AL.
Joe Wheeler was the only general in both the Confederate and U.S. Armies. He served in the U.S. Army after the Civil War and attained the rank of general in that army as well. His home has been restored and is next to the Southern/NS mainline between Courtland and Decatur, AL.
Went down to the Train Loft Friday and picked up a new RK Scale GP-9 (30-2979-1). While not having as much add-on detail as the RS-1,it is still a good looking engine. It has reporting marks for the LOP&G,which I wasn't familiar with,but a quick trip to Google solved that mystery. The Live Oak Perry & Gulf was a short line that went through several owners until Southern purchased it in 1954. For more on this line look here:http://www.taplines.net/July/LOPG1.htm
After taking a couple pics,oiling the wheels & rollers,and priming the smoke unit I placed it on my carpet central,added it to my remote,and ran a few laps around the living room. Engine sounds are good,especially when you throttle up and let her roll. I think the horn could be a little better,it sounds kind of hollow. It runs very smooth at 2 SMPH,a little jerky at 1 SMPH. I believe after break in it should run smoother. Probably wouldn't hurt to clean the track as well. I can't wait to see it on our modular layout at the train show next month. Here are some low quality pics:
After taking a couple pics,oiling the wheels & rollers,and priming the smoke unit I placed it on my carpet central,added it to my remote,and ran a few laps around the living room. Engine sounds are good,especially when you throttle up and let her roll. I think the horn could be a little better,it sounds kind of hollow. It runs very smooth at 2 SMPH,a little jerky at 1 SMPH. I believe after break in it should run smoother. Probably wouldn't hurt to clean the track as well. I can't wait to see it on our modular layout at the train show next month. Here are some low quality pics:
hey mike! I LIKE IT!!!!!!.........oh, and jeff has the liquid water....4 bottles..........rogerw.
Mike Nice looking Geep.....Been holding out for Atlas O to make one or at lease and MTH premier version.
Neal that's a great looking sign...I thought it was a REAL Southern Train Bulletin.
I would love to have one made for the Charlotte Station to hang in my Son room!
Neal that's a great looking sign...I thought it was a REAL Southern Train Bulletin.
I would love to have one made for the Charlotte Station to hang in my Son room!
hey sean!! i have the mth-premier version. it not the "black" version like southern mike's it's the "virginia green" version like the color of your southern sign. if you'll look on page 1 on this thread and scroll down the page, you will see a picture of my gp-9 with a couple of grain cars behind it.............rogerw.
Sean, Atlas made a GP-9 in an IC, a road that of course shared much the same territory. The IC didn't have the dynamic brake blister. I don't know if a Southern would or not.
Atlas DID make Southern in SD-35. Also in SR, CofG and S&A GP-35. All same paint scheme with DB feature. I have all those.
Atlas DID make Southern in SD-35. Also in SR, CofG and S&A GP-35. All same paint scheme with DB feature. I have all those.
Hey Ginsaw, please shoot me an email
Ginsaw the Southern rostered both GP7 and GP9's with and without Dynamic Braking. So far MTH and Williams are the only manufactures to make a prototypical model todate. The Williams GP9 has a removed DB hood which is nice and MTH has made models in both the Green and black Tuxedo paint schemes.
Okay Roger--
That smelly GP-9 disal was not painted in "Virginia Green" by the Southern Ry. Southern stopped using the dark Virginia Green in 1934 when it changed to a slightly lighter Sylvan Green. In the same year the SRR also stopped using gold leaf and went to imitation gold paint for trim. The same held true for real aluminum paint which was changed to imitation aluminum. Saved a lot of repaint $$ because the new coatings stood up far better to the acid wash at the Locomotive and Car wash station. ....TIES
hey dewey!!! i may not have the correct color of the green on my gp-9 but it's one of the versions of "southern green"!!!!.............lol.......i think that you're just "green" with envy because of my diesels and your ancient black, smoky and smelly steam locomotives.............lol....... ......................roger
Okay,but don't wash the GP-9 too much Roger--it may properly fade to John Deere Green so it can join its true family!
hey dewey! you just refuse to let it go!! get over it!!! if you'll just accept the fact that "those stinkin' diesels" are never going anywhere, you probably feel better!!! the good ole' days of steam are gone!!!! buy yourself an diesel engine you'll feel better!!!!!!.......lol... ............rogerw.
WoW I wasn't expecting to have to step in and take both Steam and Diesel away from you guy's... I'm glad I have Steam and Diesel living happily together in my household LOL!!
well he started it!!! he's always talkin' about my diesels!! he keeps sayin' that they stink!!!!..............rotflol......... ..........rogerw.
I hate to break it to Dewey, but there are those of us who think diesel smoke smells good. I'll take it over coal smoke anytime.
..now where do I find one of those emotion icons with the little guy sipping coffee and looking forward to what comes next..
..now where do I find one of those emotion icons with the little guy sipping coffee and looking forward to what comes next..
My MTH SD45 came in a couple of weeks ago. Would not run under Remote Commander; returned to dealer for
a Factory Reset; waiting, hoping.
Very frustrating - and these photos aren't helping - I asked for a proper Southern SD45 for years, finally got
one, and...ran fine in conventional, and the sound is downright spooky-good.
Back in my 20's and 30's I used to drive to work in Mobile up Telegraph Road between the Southern and Frisco yards,
and I'd see these most impressive black locos with great, flaring front-ends, having just brought a train down
from Selma. I didn't know an SD45 from a 45-rpm record in those days (always liked railroading, but at that point I had
FAR more interest in cars and girls; choo-choos - not so much - and I worked for the ICG!) Always thought that
they were very prepossessing, for a diesel.
a Factory Reset; waiting, hoping.
Very frustrating - and these photos aren't helping - I asked for a proper Southern SD45 for years, finally got
one, and...ran fine in conventional, and the sound is downright spooky-good.
Back in my 20's and 30's I used to drive to work in Mobile up Telegraph Road between the Southern and Frisco yards,
and I'd see these most impressive black locos with great, flaring front-ends, having just brought a train down
from Selma. I didn't know an SD45 from a 45-rpm record in those days (always liked railroading, but at that point I had
FAR more interest in cars and girls; choo-choos - not so much - and I worked for the ICG!) Always thought that
they were very prepossessing, for a diesel.
I hate to come out of the steam "closet" and spoil the fun with my friend Roger, our President of The Module Club. But I bet I have more real "disals" than Roger does. My stinkers are from 1941-1960, dates when diesel started on the SRR and steam ended, '53 on SRR and '60 on N&W---the "transition" period. Those disals like Rogers with a mule logo on the nose like some of Rogers don't count. As the NS Annual Report said, we are a "Transportation Company"---Southern and N&W were Railroads.
And now we have got "Kilowatt Sean" fooling with Buck Duke's Electrics on the hated Piedmont & Northern RR [hated by Southern, ACL, Seaboard and Duke Power shareholders,etc.].
Now I have got to quit aggravating Roger,having fun and go back to ballasting. Next to root canals and prostate biopsies, ballasting is my favorite thing to procrastinate and grouse about .
Thinking about having Jeff Sohn repaint and redecorate one of my Spencer Ps-4s in the livery of the famous Queen & Crescent engine #6482. It towed the all-Pullman Queen & Crescent on the CNO&TP Line from Cincinnati to New Orleans and was rostered at Ferguson Shops in Ludlow,Ky.
By the time MTH, Lionel or whomever gets around to modeling this famous engine I will likely have stopped paying taxes and buying shoes .
TIES Magazine reports that it was Southern's most photographed Ps-4, mainly because Erlanger Hill southbound out of Cincinnati was a favorite Newspaper and Railfan photo site. #6482 had a Wimble Smoke Deflector installed to help the engine crew endure the infamous long and narrow Rathole tunnels of the CNO&TP.
And now we have got "Kilowatt Sean" fooling with Buck Duke's Electrics on the hated Piedmont & Northern RR [hated by Southern, ACL, Seaboard and Duke Power shareholders,etc.].
Now I have got to quit aggravating Roger,having fun and go back to ballasting. Next to root canals and prostate biopsies, ballasting is my favorite thing to procrastinate and grouse about .
Thinking about having Jeff Sohn repaint and redecorate one of my Spencer Ps-4s in the livery of the famous Queen & Crescent engine #6482. It towed the all-Pullman Queen & Crescent on the CNO&TP Line from Cincinnati to New Orleans and was rostered at Ferguson Shops in Ludlow,Ky.
By the time MTH, Lionel or whomever gets around to modeling this famous engine I will likely have stopped paying taxes and buying shoes .
TIES Magazine reports that it was Southern's most photographed Ps-4, mainly because Erlanger Hill southbound out of Cincinnati was a favorite Newspaper and Railfan photo site. #6482 had a Wimble Smoke Deflector installed to help the engine crew endure the infamous long and narrow Rathole tunnels of the CNO&TP.
I believe that the proper term for a "Wimbleton Smoke Deflector" is actually
a "Wimble duct" or "Wimble smoke deflector".
Mr. Wimble was an engineer on the Southern Rwy.
a "Wimble duct" or "Wimble smoke deflector".
Mr. Wimble was an engineer on the Southern Rwy.
Thanks D500, I corrected the smoke duct spelling.
Been there, done that, so best wishes and good luck.quote:Next to root canals and prostate biopsies
Anywho, how many Ps-4 liveries were there total?? And will you use an MTH or Lionel for he Q&C?
p.s., personal note for Sam - I saw your post and want to do the respectful thing and respond. The Southern diesel engines (about 12 of them) would be part of a general sell-off and exit from the hobby. That's the only way that would make sense. And I'm still on the fence as to getting into piecemeal sales or turning the whole thing over to someone. That's kind of it for now. But my regards in the meantime...
well the last Ps-4's I'm waiting to add to my roster is 1401 and as delivered black 1372. Then I'll have to push for my Southern Ms-4 class Mikado.
Don't think I have seen one of these on this thread. My first engine, an MTH RS-3.
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