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@Carey TeaRose posted:

JohnnieW- what paints did you use please?? Oh, what is the 48 Club?

I wish I knew . I say that because I use whatever paint is laying around. I’m a big fan of mixing colors till I find what works.  I know the sky was a medium blue with a lot of white added . Plus I used a lot of dry brushing .  It really was a cross my fingers and hope it works kind of project. I’m the kind of guy that tries something and figure things out as I go .  I can say I used blue , white , green , brown , gray and black latex paint . I wish I could tell you more but I would be lying .

@Carey TeaRose posted:

This guy reminds me of Harpo Marx. I like what you are doing.

Newly arrived. Two big original American Flyer double lamps. Set up in place on the upper platform of the new Basement Layout. New XL frosted globe bulbs are already ordered.

Two quick vids: truck/wheels got changed out on a couple of the original Wide Gauge DORFAN freights, and the original Wide Gauge  AMERICAN FLYER Salt Lake Bridge is now in situ on the Basement Layout. The original five freights are being pulled by a repro Dorfan Crocodile electric.

Newly arrived (today) and on the upper platform of the new Basement Layout. An original Wide Gauge AMERICAN FLYER #102 Central Station.

My Standard gauge, first my 390E from 1929 - 1931, second Lionel's remake 6-13100 390E from 1988 ( uncatalogued 

Not much new this week, just picked up a Marklin newspaper cart in very good condition with very nice newspapers. I really do like the small German accessories as they add so much character to a layout or display.

Miketg

This evening. Running the original Wide Gauge BOUCHER 2222 locomotive and it’s matching Pennsylvania Tender, seen here pulling one original Wide Gauge American Flyer passenger car.  

Pic taken today. Latest version of the lower platform on the Basement Layout. Two yellow repro bumpers added.

@JohnnieWalker posted:

I wish I knew . I say that because I use whatever paint is laying around. I’m a big fan of mixing colors till I find what works.  I know the sky was a medium blue with a lot of white added . Plus I used a lot of dry brushing .  It really was a cross my fingers and hope it works kind of project. I’m the kind of guy that tries something and figure things out as I go .  I can say I used blue , white , green , brown , gray and black latex paint . I wish I could tell you more but I would be lying .

Love the 3D clouds!

Taken today. A nice pic of the left corner of the Wide Gauge/Standard Gauge Basement Layout. Showing Boucher, American Flyer, and Dorfan trains and cars.

I knew it! High drama! I knew adding #92 Floodlight Towers would be perfect for the new Rail Yard! Can’t wait until all the lighting and buildings get wired up.

Loooooong time between drinks at Casa Fatmanos , but finally have a few more goodies coming ...

( Been a bit of a penny pinching few months as I decided to buy a new car for the first time in my life LOL... Currently in Japan and waiting to board a boat ! )

I have filled one of the few remaining gaps in my "Inertia Motor " collection .. with a Wilhelm Kraus Centrimotor coming down south from shivering Europe to a boiling hot Aussie ( 42 degrees C here today)

And closer to the weird and wonderful train topic ...

Two carriages from a little known German company from after the war ... Ottenjann ... or OJA ...Now this is a tricky one as I have pretty much been able to find out bugga all except for an actual company name "Hanseatisch Oldenburgische Blechspielwarenfabrik August Ottenjann "  and even this name doesn't translate too well LOL!

Best I can do is The Tin Toy manufacturing company of August Ottenjann in the Oldenburg area with Hanseatic League connections ( medieval trade guild )  @Arne .. HEEEEEELLLPPPP lol!

I can Literally find NADA online except for 2 references one in a paywalled German magazine/newpaper article

There is ONE set of photo's with a gorgeous streamliner and freight wagons ... no versions of the passenger types I have gotten ?

Another where it is mentioned in a Forum index which frustratingly only adds ...

"Nur ca. zwei Jahre, zwischen 1949 und 1951 fertigte August O. in Oldenburg/D unter den Marken oja bzw. OAO
eine elektrische Eisenbahn in > Spurweite 0."

"Only about two years, between 1949 and 1951, August O. manufactured in Oldenburg/D under the brands oja and OAO an electric train in > 0 gauge."

I think I have a new Holy Grail in finding a loco and tender  ... ( I expect to die before finding one , let alone one for sale lololol.. but hey , you gotta have aims in life! "

Anyway what I have coming !...

However there is a very recent example of one of these carriages on the cover of a German Collectors magazine .... @Arne if you have this magazine I will serve you loyally forever as my master if you can give me a translation of the article  LOL !!!

Balance has returned to the galaxy...the 226E's tender chassis has been restored to its prewar configuration:

Clean-up and testing now, to be followed by a few cosmetic repairs (broken marker lamp, missing whistle casting, broken front steps on the 2226W, and a missing hook from the box-coupler).

PD

At them moment I made new shelves for trains and accesories.

Made from glas and aluminium, glued with silicone.

Arne

Very sharp Arne.

here is a tin plate Standard gauge 517 caboose that the roof looked rough ( with some rust ) that I decided to leave the body and frame alone and just paint the red part of the roof.

Arne,

  Very nice, clean look.

Tom

@Fatman - can you provide a few close-ups of the locomotive & tender? How does she run?

Also, I never heard of an "Inertia Motor " before...looks interesting, but what does it do? If you tell me it runs something related to your trains, I will keel over!

Thanks for the enlightening!

Tom

Just got this Lionel remake of Standard Gauge 400E, It's pulling my 514R Reefer ad 1766, 1767, & 1768 Passenger cars.

@PRR8976 posted:

@Fatman - can you provide a few close-ups of the locomotive & tender? How does she run?

Also, I never heard of an "Inertia Motor " before...looks interesting, but what does it do? If you tell me it runs something related to your trains, I will keel over!

Thanks for the enlightening!

Tom

Hi Tom !

Firstly I have to clarify ... I only have found the two passenger carriages pictured .. the loco and freight set up are pictures I found from an article in a local German online magazine , that was pay-walled so therefore I couldn't access the article , but I could google search for the images in it ( Nothing escapes my google-fu lol)

The Magnificent specimen of Godliness @Arne has emailed me overnight with copies of the article in the magazine and a wonderful translation! From the information Arne sent it appears that streamline fellow turned up in 1991 to the curators of the Oldenburg Museum who were organising an exhibition of toys " Children's Dreams...Toys from the last hundred years"

Since then only a few items of provenance have turned up and a lot more questions than answers have presented themselves , but the author of the magnificent 7 page article presented the timeline of the modern search for information and through one document could actually prove the existence of August Ottenjann and his presence as an entrepreneur and sheet metal maker who had a workshop in Oldenburg from 1948 until his death in 1967 ... he was only in his 50's and it was postulated that like many in the post war toy boom he made toys to establish his business , however that business seemed to move on fairly quickly into a regular fabrication enterprise ... apart from that one document the rest of the story is oral , and not very dense in information ...

Amazing that such a thing could virtually disappear without leaving much of a trace .

Ok .. to Inertia Motors ! .... these were a quick phase in the early 1910's to 30's and were presented as an alternative to messy and dangerous steam engine toys for children ... several makers , Hess, Tipp & Co , and Wm. Kraus all made versions .. basically the are an enclosed heavy flywheel connected thru an amazing array of tin cut and cast alloy gears to enable them to be sped up to a hefty amount of RPM's  where the input energy is then stored by the flywheel to be released via a secondary clutched gearing line to a pulley from which could be driven the same toys that were powered by steam engines of the day ...

Sadly they only run at usable power for a minute or two at best , but the infinite joy of cranking them up , feeling the raw power and the whining muted roar of the flywheel as it accelerates and runs down is a joy to behold LOL!

In essence they were the supercharged early brothers of all the "Friction-drive " toys of the 70's we all were disappointed by

Of all the models the most common are the Hess ones , they aren't hard to find , but they have 4 different ones ( I am missing one version ) , Kraus produced 2 diff designs (I still need to find one)   , Tipp&co just the one ( gottit!)

J.L. Hess Dynamobil

And interior ( diff one but same model )

and another before cleaning .. yuck !!

Tipp & Co  .. the TippMobil ( how original lol )

And the Kraus seen in earlier post

Examples of accessories I have ...

( and this is where your mind gets blown .. yes they can be part of a layout lol ...)

A windmill made by Bing c1910

A roller grain mill by Hess ...

And naturally more modern steam mill accessories from Wilesco, Mamod or Arnold

Site with info ... https://www.hesstintoys.com/dyna1.html

They were sold with different applications and uses ...

Too Kool for Skool !!!!

@Fatman posted:

...Ok .. to Inertia Motors ! .... these were a quick phase in the early 1920's to 30's and were presented as an alternative to messy and dangerous steam engine toys for children ... several makers , Hess, Tipp & Co , and Wm. Kraus all made versions .. basically the are an enclosed heavy flywheel connected thru an amazing array of tin cut and cast alloy gears to enable them to be sped up to a hefty amount of RPM's  where the input energy is then stored by the flywheel to be released via a secondary clutched gearing line to a pulley from which could be driven the same toys that were powered by steam engines of the day ...

Sadly they only run at usable power for a minute or two at best , but the infinite joy of cranking them up , feeling the raw power and the whining muted roar of the flywheel as it accelerates and runs down is a joy to behold LOL!

In essence they were the supercharged early brothers of all the "Friction-drive " toys of the 70's we all were disappointed by

Of all the models the most common are the Hess ones , they aren't hard to find , but they have 4 different ones ( I am missing one version ) , Kraus produced 2 diff designs (I still need to find one)   , Tipp&co just the one ( gottit!)

J.L. Hess Dynamobil

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Site with info ... https://www.hesstintoys.com/dyna1.html

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Great post regarding the inertia motors - totally new information for me!

Love the two "sawing" toys - so many safety violations!  In the still picture, the poor worker is freehanding a piece of wood into a spinning blade.  In the video, the human operator is doing the same thing, putting his flesh close to the blade.  Imagine such toys being sold today!  OTOH, I'll bet those toys taught valuable life lessons to some young boys.

Wow, lots of great items this week! Arne your shelves are super and Fatman I definitely need to read up on those inertia machines.

What I have this week is an early Marklin destination board. Seems the base was repainted and there are no markings to read on the base as is usually found. Not perfect but still a nice piece. Miketg

@PRR8976 posted:

Also, I never heard of an "Inertia Motor " before...looks interesting, but what does it do? If you tell me it runs something related to your trains, I will keel over!

Tom

Do you remember toy cars with "friction motors" from the 50's and 60's? Same concept.

@Miketg posted:

Wow, lots of great items this week! Arne your shelves are super and Fatman I definitely need to read up on those inertia machines.

What I have this week is an early Marklin destination board. Seems the base was repainted and there are no markings to read on the base as is usually found. Not perfect but still a nice piece. Miketg

Looks great. I like the destination boards.

Here a few from my collection, made by Bing, Bub, Fandor, Distler, Beckh and other.

From many countries, here Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, France and UK

Arne

First part of the new shelves finisched, only a bit of decoration and a few trains are missing.

Arne

Great display Arne, very nice to look at all those models.

A Hornby railway station for the British market, it dates from 1936? The details in the litho are amazings.

Daniel

Daniel,

   It looks good enough to be on Arne's shelf!

Tom

@PRR8976 posted:

Daniel,

   It looks good enough to be on Arne's shelf!

Tom

Excellent Tom but he would trade it for an obscur German model certainly....

This thread has been quiet too long!

Here is a video of a new to me, recently re-wheeled American Flyer Wide Gauge St. Paul locomotive pulling some freight cars.  Engine still needs a repaint and some work to get the lights working, but it runs good with the new wheels.  Bonus of some O gauge streamliners running in the background.

NWL

Hello everyone,

Picked up some nice items the last couple of weeks. Let’s start with this small windmill, which I believe to be by Bing. Again, I have a real soft spot for the small accessories.

Miketg

I love it when a plan comes together !

( or in the case of this post " It wont happen overnight, but it will happen " <--- veiled Aussie reference to a old shampoo commercial ...LOL)

Rachel Hunter long before she became Mrs Rod Stewart

Anywayyyyyy...

Years ago an overpaint Hornby Riviera loco came to live with me ... These are made into the late 1930's with the first model being c1926 .. the earlier ones had no wind deflectors as seen in this one

Runs well , and the overpaint wasn't really badly done , so I was happy enough ...

But fast forward to today and look what showed up on a certain auction site here in Australia ... 1938 body with wind deflectors , I like the look more than the Plain Jane version

So now he has the chance to be more than a shadow of his former self ...

Marx on the layout:

Need to run down a prewar silver/red/black tender.

PD

Good day everyone,

A nice piece by Ottmar Beckh, post World War II. Simple but colorful, and it just has its own charm. Miketg

Good morning everyone,

As I said a couple of weeks back, I picked up a few interesting tinplate items. The first of these is a Loma set. Loma was an Austrian manufacturer in the early post war years based in Vienna. There is a short entry on them on the Binn’s Road site and a decent write up about them on a booklet printed a few years ago which goes into the history of Austrian tinplate, which I cannot find at the moment. You can find Loma items every so often at some of the second hand shops in Vienna or on the auction lists of the Dorotheum, a famous Vienna auction house, akin to Sotheby’s. One interesting note is that I rarely see Loma pieces with great paint. Like other tinplate pieces these were not primed and I feel this contributes to the paint loss.

Miketg

A small part of the displays at The Station,  a model rr shop in New Cumberland PA.   I did ask if a certain piece was for sale and was told that this was just the display for the family collection.   Lots of neat stuff, the whole perimeter of the room was like this.

Very nice collection...I like the bottom two shelves.

PD

I am currently building a new storage system for my collection. Not everything can be in showcases, so drawers are now being built for them.

In order to see everything, the wagons should lie down, but not scratch anywhere.

That's why aluminum rods are now placed in the drawers on which the wagons with the axles stand. So that they don't fall down, they are then fastened with self-made clamps.

Arne

@Arne posted:

I am currently building a new storage system for my collection. Not everything can be in showcases, so drawers are now being built for them.

In order to see everything, the wagons should lie down, but not scratch anywhere.

That's why aluminum rods are now placed in the drawers on which the wagons with the axles stand. So that they don't fall down, they are then fastened with self-made clamps.

Arne

Very innovative.  Never seen anything like it!

This morning I stopped by Graham Claytor's shop in Pulaski, VA

Graham is also a member of the Roanoke Valley Model Railroad Club and he has loaned us a MTH Power Station for our tinplate layout. I picked it up while I was in his store.

Scott Smith