For the $$$$ to get 4014 to METROLink line, UP could have the 3985 running and have her 15 year inspection. An out side the UP firm is handling the move, and the restore on the BB. Somebody has stated an another threat a third party is paying for all this. I wonder who has the deep pockets to do this if the story is true?
The UP is handling the move. If someone else is in fact paying the bills then so be it. As for the 3985....time will tell the story.
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
For the $$$$ to get 4014 to METROLink line, UP could have the 3985 running and have her 15 year inspection. An out side the UP firm is handling the move, and the restore on the BB. Somebody has stated an another threat a third party is paying for all this. I wonder who has the deep pockets to do this if the story is true?
I can't possibly know. However, If I were to get good odds. I would bet a large sum on Jay Leno.
i think it would be great if the union pacific would get their one steam engine that they never retired to pull it back. wouldn't the 844 pulling it back be a really nice sight?
The UP Steam Crew has completed all of the work needed to get the 4014 ready to move and all of the work to move the 4014 to its current position. The UP Steam Crew will continure to move the engine and will complete all of the work to restore the 4014.
Originally Posted by git_r_done15541:
i think it would be great if the union pacific would get their one steam engine that they never retired to pull it back. wouldn't the 844 pulling it back be a really nice sight?
In the winter??? You must be dreaming.
Originally Posted by ROBBYTRAINS:
The UP Steam Crew will continure to move the engine and will complete all of the work to restore the 4014.
I/m pretty sure that an outside specialized contractor will be doing, at the very least, the complete boiler overhaul.
I believe I read on this forum, or possibly T.O. that the bigboy was going to winter at the Colton shops for some preliminary work and wouldn't be headed east across the Cajon until spring (when the weather is more favorable.)
The 4014 will get to Cheyenne when it gets there...no need to rush this. Let em' get it there safely and we can all enjoy the journey.
Originally Posted by AmbBob:
I believe I read on this forum, or possibly T.O. that the bigboy was going to winter at the Colton shops for some preliminary work and wouldn't be headed east across the Cajon until spring (when the weather is more favorable.)
Don't think so. They WILL need to take 4014 to the Colton Diesel Shop in order to put he over a pit and service the driver axle roller bearings. After that, 4014 will proceed north to Ogden, then east to Cheyenne, probably arrivin Cheyenne in late January or early February.
The axle roller bearings have already been drained, flushed, and refilled wtih new oil at the RailGiants Museum.
Originally Posted by ROBBYTRAINS:
The axle roller bearings have already been drained, flushed, and refilled wtih new oil at the RailGiants Museum.
It is my understanding, based on everything that has been posted on TO and other sites, that in order to service the driver axle roller bearings, SAFELY, the locomotive should be over a pit. All the other roller bearings on the trailing truck, and tender, are external and have indeed already been serviced while 4014 was still at the museum site.
The axle roller bearings were serviced when 4014 was put onto the panel track.
I just don't see how they could do a proper job of servicing the driver bearings on panel track. Maybe a "good enough" job to move it slowly a few miles to a pit where they can do a proper job, but more than that? How could there be enough room to climb through the frame and service them for the move to Wyoming?
They need to drop the drivers to get to them, I don't see how they could access them properly in Pomona. I know they serviced the tender,trailing truck and engine truck out there already. I'm sure either way we'll find out what they are going to service soon enough.
Originally Posted by CWEX:
They need to drop the drivers to get to them,
No they don't. I have never seen a roller bearing equipped steam locomotive that requires the "dropping of drivers" simply to service the inside roller bearing boxes.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by CWEX:
They need to drop the drivers to get to them,
No they don't. I have never seen a roller bearing equipped steam locomotive that requires the "dropping of drivers" simply to service the inside roller bearing boxes.
Does it matter where it is done, if it is done, or about to be done, as long as it is done before the big haul, is all that probably matters to those in control of the work.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by CWEX:
They need to drop the drivers to get to them,
No they don't. I have never seen a roller bearing equipped steam locomotive that requires the "dropping of drivers" simply to service the inside roller bearing boxes.
My mistake, I thought I heard Ed say something in one of the videos they have put out. Thanks for clarifying that.
Originally Posted by Ukaflyer:
Does it matter where it is done, if it is done, or about to be done, as long as it is done before the big haul, is all that probably matters to those in control of the work.
Nope it doesn't matter.
one of the official UP videos said they will be doing anything they could not get to at Pomona at Colton.
Originally Posted by Ukaflyer:
Does it matter where it is done, if it is done, or about to be done, as long as it is done before the big haul, is all that probably matters to those in control of the work.
Sometimes it does matter to the poor person that is actually doing the work, while laying on his back on the ground/ties! Servicing driver axle bearings, no matter whether roller or plain bearings, is always best accomplished over a pit.
I'll second what Hot Water says. Crawling on the ground under a locomotive is no fun at all...
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Ukaflyer:
Does it matter where it is done, if it is done, or about to be done, as long as it is done before the big haul, is all that probably matters to those in control of the work.
Sometimes it does matter to the poor person that is actually doing the work, while laying on his back on the ground/ties! Servicing driver axle bearings, no matter whether roller or plain bearings, is always best accomplished over a pit.
The earlier discussion wasn't debating about the poor individual having to do the task but if it had been done or not and for whatever reason a few people seemed quite concerned about it, not sure why? The short distance it has to go is not likely to result in any further deterioration of the bearings before the oil is changed before its longer haul.
While I am here I am intrigued to know who the so called third party is that seems to be behind the restoration, or is this a case of smoke and mirrors to deflect the real identity?
Just to be clear on the subject, the bearings have been drained and flushed at the RailGiants Museum before the move. They will again be drained and flushed at Colton yard, and then several move time during the "long haul". I do agree that it was not comfortable for the UP Steam Crew to perform this task without a pit. But they did it because it needed to be done before 4014 moved across the parking lot.
Originally Posted by ROBBYTRAINS:
Just to be clear on the subject, the bearings have been drained and flushed at the RailGiants Museum before the move. They will again be drained and flushed at Colton yard, and then several move time during the "long haul".
Why "drained & flushed several more times" during the trip to Cheyenne? Even during the regular service days, the roller bearings were NOT "drained & flushed" all that often, and they were under far greater loads back then. I bet the steam crew doesn't "drain & flush" the roller bearings on 844 during an entire multi-week/month trip.
Well if they've been serviced already than hey that's great....I do remember that they had several drums out there.
I spoke to some Cheyenne visitors to our Rocky Mountain Toy Train Show yesterday.
It looks like 4014 will sit next to the light rail track until late December. Apparently they have to wait for the SD40 that they traded to the museum to come out of the paint shop before they cut into the light rail line. They don't want to cut into the light rail line twice.
Latest video from the UP.
A nice photo I came across....
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any word?
is this the weekend of the move to live metro tracks?
That's been the word...Sunday the 22nd
Originally Posted by Laidoffsick:
That's been the word...Sunday the 22nd
The latest info I saw posted on Train Orders, apparently from the Trains Magazine NewsWire was, not until late January.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Laidoffsick:
That's been the word...Sunday the 22nd
The latest info I saw posted on Train Orders, apparently from the Trains Magazine NewsWire was, not until late January.
I can confirm that as I just read it on the news wire.
Yeah late January is the time frame.
Here's the latest UP video on the 4014.
Guess who arrived in Pomona today?
that's right the UP steam team is back in Pomona according to trains magazine.
Back in the roundhouse, 3985 is waitng for them!
Originally Posted by bigdodgetrain:
Guess who arrived in Pomona today?
that's right the UP steam team is back in Pomona according to trains magazine.
Yawn...
But does anyone have the word on when the move onto the Metrolink tracks will be? Last word was Dec 22nd which came and went. After all the posts here and other places, things have been strangely silent. Since the trade-out diesel and caboose are here, the move could be very soon.
Just posted on TrainOrders:
"LA METRO (NOT Metrolink) has just announced that UP 4014 will be moved from the LA Fairgrounds via Metrolink on Sunday January 26th! The move will be from the LA Fairgrounds to at least the Covina Metrolink station for an official public/media viewing event" Starting time not given.
Every railfan (and foamer) within 500 miles is going to converge on Pomona.
