What is this brass model Gondola?

Can you show us photos of the gondola on O gauge tracks please.

Andrew

Might be a drop-bottom Southern Pacific sugar beet gondola.

Oh good grief. Andrew - your suggestion shows it is a G Scale (I think) and not O as I was led to believe.

See the two pictures. The one of the trucks clearly shows the wheels outside the rail on both sides.

So, is this a G Scale Precision Scale Brass Model? Any idea of it's value?

Thank you again.

Paul

@Railrunnin posted:

Oh good grief. Andrew - your suggestion shows it is a G Scale (I think) and not O as I was led to believe.

See the two pictures. The one of the trucks clearly shows the wheels outside the rail on both sides.

So, is this a G Scale Precision Scale Brass Model? Any idea of it's value?

Thank you again.

Paul

"1" Scale, 1:32 proportion would be more precise.  "G" scale is a mish-mash of scales and proportions, depending on manufacturer.

Rusty

It is a USRA gondola.  Scale ?        Didn't know that Precision Scale dabbled in G Scale.

I believe , 1/32nd is referred to as gauge 1 not G scale

Is the wheel gauge 45mm or larger? If larger, it might be Gauge 3 (a somewhat rare scale). I mention that because I haven't seen many 1:32 scale brass models of freight cars.

An easy way I distinguish scale is that Maerklin is gauge 1, 1/32 while LGB for example is 1:22.5. Yet both run on 1.75 inch gauge track. Mark

@Rusty Traque posted:

"1" Scale, 1:32 proportion would be more precise.  "G" scale is a mish-mash of scales and proportions, depending on manufacturer.

Rusty

Yes. There is really no such thing as "G" scale, which I think started as just a nickname for "LGB" products, that run on #1 gauge track.

MTH's "G" (not really) locos, and I suppose rolling stock, are true 1:32 #1 scale. I have their 1:32 J3a Hudson. Gorgeous.

Well, whatever it is, it's certainly a beautiful model... 🙂

Mark in Oregon

A very similar car was made in plastic by Intermountain (O scale plastic) some years back. It is a slightly different version as the sides are made from cut-down boxcar ends mounted inside the framework.

@Dave Koehler posted:

I believe , 1/32nd is referred to as gauge 1 not G scale

engines , freight cars and passenger cars have been made  in 1/32 in brass

@barrister.2u posted:

An easy way I distinguish scale is that Maerklin is gauge 1, 1/32 while LGB for example is 1:22.5. Yet both run on 1.75 inch gauge track. Mark

LGB  is  suppose to be meter gauge in 1/22.5 scale

The Conjecture Mitigation Task Force has been hard at work. Actually, not a lot of work at all, since the clue is right there on the label...

If you had Googled "brass gondola 98529" you would have received the answer instantly.

The well-intentioned but slightly inexact folks at Brass Guide refer to it as a "G scale" model, BTW.

G Brass Train PSC UP PSC-98529 Precision Scale Co. (brasstrains.com)

Thank you Arthur. I rather enjoyed the CMTF. Seems like Hot Water was spot on.

Ben, I'll measure to see if they are 45mm or larger.

I still don't know what it is worth, but it is a pretty cool model to have around. I got it as part of a small collection I won.

Paul

Paul:

You're welcome. The CMTF stands ready to assist.

BTW, I live on Shelter Island, ALSO "6-9% bigger at low tide."

Arthur, I spent a couple of summers on Shelter Island once I ditched the Hampton's.  Peaceful, quiet and incredibly Beautiful!  Has to be pretty darned great to live there year round!

Are you going to sell the gondola or get more cars to match it?

You can have the car 3D scanned and then have the data re sized to make O scale gondolas.

Andrew

Arthur, I spent all my summers in Sag Harbor when i was a young lad. I remember going to Shelter Island for live music in some bar and then having to rush to the dock by midnight to catch the last ferry back or get stuck on the island all night.

Andrew, I will probably end up selling this item. It is nice but has no place with anything else I acquire - I mean collect <G>

Paul

Dennis, my family is now in its 7th generation on Shelter Island. It has changed, of course, but it's better than the fashionable Hamptons and the newly-discovered North Fork.

Paul, that band you heard was the "South Ferry Band" so named because the members, when playing at the Corner Bar in Sag Harbor, had to leave at 1:30 am to catch the last boat back to the Island. When South Ferry Band played on Shelter Island, there was no curfew, and the band played on until 4 am. Lead singer and lead guitar Paul Shepherd; rhythm and steel guitar Chip Luddecke; bass Winston Roye; (Google him to see his remarkable career.)  I was the drummer, by the way.

Hope you enjoyed the noise.

@Arthur P. Bloom posted:

Dennis, my family is now in its 7th generation on Shelter Island. It has changed, of course, but it's better than the fashionable Hamptons and the newly-discover North Fork.

Paul, that band you heard was the "South Ferry Band" so named because the members, when playing at the Corner Bar in Sag Harbor, had to leave at 1:30 am to catch the last boat back to the Island. When South Ferry Band played on Shelter Island, there was no curfew, and the band played on until 4 am. Lead singer and lead guitar Paul Shepherd; rhythm and steel guitar Chip Luddecke; bass Winston Roye; (Google him to see his remarkable career.)  I was the drummer, by the way.

Hope you enjoyed the noise.

Don't you just love how these things can happen in life?

Who could have predicted that two men who share a love of model trains and enjoying the OGR Forum were at one time in the same room many many years ago? One playing the drums, the other drinking beer and trying to win favor with the girls.

Arthur, I hope our paths cross  - I owe you a beer (or three) for all that great music.

Paul

Whatever it is Paul it still looks pretty cool! 👍