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This is a strange one.

I just received a supposedly new LionChief SP 0-8-0 (for the "Rising Sun set).  It certainly looks new.  It is one of the replacement engines that comes in a long grey foam box from Lionel with the engine and tender packed end to end and the controller in a niche in the top of the box.

When placed on the track, the sound endlessly repeats, in a woman's voice "INSIDE WIMSIC...INSIDE WIMSIC..."  etc.  Not positive about that second word since it is a nonsense sounding word.

Before turning on the controller, I expected to hear that "tootle-loo" beeping these things usually make when they aren't linked to a controller.  But instead, just this repeating voice.

It runs fine from the wireless controller but keeps repeating that message.  None of the sound buttons do anything.  And can't change the volume.  The chuff switch on or off makes no difference.  If it has power, it keeps repeating that message and only that message.

I keep buying LionChief spare engines to augment those from seven complete sets I got to populate two public children's layouts I built.  I have bought about a half dozen of these SP 0-8-0's, maybe ten Santa Fe FT's, and also others.  Never seen anything like this.

Any ideas how to deal with this?

Here is a short video so you can hear this annoying thing...

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Here is that topic I remembered https://ogrforum.com/topic/167966364581647271

@miller3 posted:

Hello,

I bought a lionchief daylight 0-8-0 for my little nephew because he loves trains and I was hoping to get him into the hobby.

However my my wife arrived to give it to him, the engine won't connect to the remote and instead just shouts N516 over and over.

The lovomotive moves with both remote and bluetooth, but neither stops the N516 chant from occuring, or turns volume down.

I can't find what this message means anywhere, so any hope from you all to understand what the issue is would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Miller

One thing I have done is order a couple of replacement boards from Lionel.  I needed two, one for this annoying board, and one for an identical engine whose sound failed (wiring to tender and speaker are OK and swapping in the board from a working engine mikes it work fine - in other words, not the usual broken tender wire problem).

For reference, the Lionel part for the board seems to be:

Item No. cs-691ENGM516-p

LIONCHIEF PCB / BLUETOOTH / 0-8-0 / SP #4727 / LCBA 4.0 and the price is $79.99 each.

This is the link to the parts page for this engine.  It is part no. 28 on the diagram.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...LOCO-ONLY-6804727001

Beyond that, I'm wondering if there might be some factory mode switch, or more likely a jumper or even a solder bridge jumper that changes it from this mode to normal.  Or it could be something that is just transmitted to it which would preclude me from doing anything.  Perhaps this is a mode they have to identify which sound profile is in in the board as I'm sure the same boards, hardware-wise, are used elsewhere.  Just wild guessing.  I will look into this after I get the boards, take apart the engines, and start working on them.

I will also contact Lionel, but I'm not expecting much.  But maybe they will surprise me.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

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