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Mark Boyce posted:
Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Mark Boyce posted:

Elliot,

An excellent prototype for inspiration in Grand Forks!!  That will turn out great!!  I'll like to see a photograph of your steam excursion someday!!  

Well Mark, my Milwaukee Road 261 and the 21" K-line cars are still packed away. The UP 3985 is gathering dust on the layout awaiting the new Lionel UP excursion set (and the theater car). In lieu of model pics, I have some of the real thing. It's where I get my inspiration.

These first two were taken at Hastings, MN

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Here she is heading north along the Mississippi on the CP main south of Red Wing.

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This was Tammy's first train ride shortly after we met.

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I spent much of that trip in the vestibule hanging out the window, collecting cinders in my hair.  I had wanted to use this picture as my forum avatar, but Rich nixed it twice before I bought a clue.

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3985 has come to town a few times.

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The Empress even came to town, so I bought the Weaver model.

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Elliot,

Thank you for the great photographs!!  Looks like a great Forum avatar to me!!  :-)

Mark - I guess Rich didn't think it was a "recognizable" picture of me because it was a profile instead of straight on. No point in changing now, been using this one for over 5 years.

Dominic Mazoch posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Big_Boy_4005 posted:

I took the sheet of buffalo board that will go on top of the plywood, and proceeded to try and remember high school geometry.

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Then I cut out the opening. The hole in the plywood deck will be round.

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There is a very good chance that all of the backdrop, fascia, benchwork and track will be done by the end of the year!

Workin' on the railroad like this sure is hard work. Looks like you are making great progress on your masterpiece! You must get a great feeling of accomplishment when you are done for the day. 

Are those 1970's Amtrak posters on the wall?

Yup, those were given to me as partial payment for a layout that I built for a guy when I was living in Denver. I recently had them framed, after about 35 years. All that time loose, they ended up with minor water damage.

Here's a little better picture:

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Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Workin' on the railroad like this sure is hard work. Looks like you are making great progress on your masterpiece! You must get a great feeling of accomplishment when you are done for the day. 

Thanks Arnold, it is a lot of work, but I love it. I don't just work my body, but my mind as well.

Most of my efforts today showed up in the form of a single sheet of paper coming off the printer (around 5 hours). I finished my  C/MRI - JMRI worksheet which names all the turnouts, signals and detectors, by bit position. Now I can transfer this information to the various detection panels and build the necessary signal panels. After that, the wiring is simply a matter of connecting the dots. It feels good to have it all planned out.

Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Workin' on the railroad like this sure is hard work. Looks like you are making great progress on your masterpiece! You must get a great feeling of accomplishment when you are done for the day. 

Thanks Arnold, it is a lot of work, but I love it. I don't just work my body, but my mind as well.

Most of my efforts today showed up in the form of a single sheet of paper coming off the printer (around 5 hours). I finished my  C/MRI - JMRI worksheet which names all the turnouts, signals and detectors, by bit position. Now I can transfer this information to the various detection panels and build the necessary signal panels. After that, the wiring is simply a matter of connecting the dots. It feels good to have it all planned out.

I think we are all frustrated engineers of sorts. The design and planning of the layout is so stimulating. When I designed mine about 15 years ago,  I used a mere pencil and paper, and occasionally a compass. You, on the other hand, are using computers and taking a scientific and sophisticated approach that will pay big dividends for you.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Workin' on the railroad like this sure is hard work. Looks like you are making great progress on your masterpiece! You must get a great feeling of accomplishment when you are done for the day. 

Thanks Arnold, it is a lot of work, but I love it. I don't just work my body, but my mind as well.

Most of my efforts today showed up in the form of a single sheet of paper coming off the printer (around 5 hours). I finished my  C/MRI - JMRI worksheet which names all the turnouts, signals and detectors, by bit position. Now I can transfer this information to the various detection panels and build the necessary signal panels. After that, the wiring is simply a matter of connecting the dots. It feels good to have it all planned out.

I think we are all frustrated engineers of sorts. The design and planning of the layout is so stimulating. When I designed mine about 15 years ago,  I used a mere pencil and paper, and occasionally a compass. You, on the other hand, are using computers and taking a scientific and sophisticated approach that will pay big dividends for you.

Actually, I designed my layout the same way you did, paper and pencil. The computer is for controlling various aspects of the layout. It will allow a dispatcher to keep track of all the trains more easily. Could you imagine controlling, 169 signal heads, over 200 detection blocks and 122 mainline turnouts, any other way?

Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Workin' on the railroad like this sure is hard work. Looks like you are making great progress on your masterpiece! You must get a great feeling of accomplishment when you are done for the day. 

Thanks Arnold, it is a lot of work, but I love it. I don't just work my body, but my mind as well.

Most of my efforts today showed up in the form of a single sheet of paper coming off the printer (around 5 hours). I finished my  C/MRI - JMRI worksheet which names all the turnouts, signals and detectors, by bit position. Now I can transfer this information to the various detection panels and build the necessary signal panels. After that, the wiring is simply a matter of connecting the dots. It feels good to have it all planned out.

I think we are all frustrated engineers of sorts. The design and planning of the layout is so stimulating. When I designed mine about 15 years ago,  I used a mere pencil and paper, and occasionally a compass. You, on the other hand, are using computers and taking a scientific and sophisticated approach that will pay big dividends for you.

Actually, I designed my layout the same way you did, paper and pencil. The computer is for controlling various aspects of the layout. It will allow a dispatcher to keep track of all the trains more easily. Could you imagine controlling, 169 signal heads, over 200 detection blocks and 122 mainline turnouts, any other way?

Sounds like a railroad empire. What fun! One of my train buddies, who is heavily involved with the Catskill tourist train that is now doing Polar Express, recently told me that trains are all about excess: the more, the better, and no matter how big the layout, and you are clearly building a huge one, it is never big enough.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Big_Boy_4005 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Workin' on the railroad like this sure is hard work. Looks like you are making great progress on your masterpiece! You must get a great feeling of accomplishment when you are done for the day. 

Thanks Arnold, it is a lot of work, but I love it. I don't just work my body, but my mind as well.

Most of my efforts today showed up in the form of a single sheet of paper coming off the printer (around 5 hours). I finished my  C/MRI - JMRI worksheet which names all the turnouts, signals and detectors, by bit position. Now I can transfer this information to the various detection panels and build the necessary signal panels. After that, the wiring is simply a matter of connecting the dots. It feels good to have it all planned out.

I think we are all frustrated engineers of sorts. The design and planning of the layout is so stimulating. When I designed mine about 15 years ago,  I used a mere pencil and paper, and occasionally a compass. You, on the other hand, are using computers and taking a scientific and sophisticated approach that will pay big dividends for you.

Actually, I designed my layout the same way you did, paper and pencil. The computer is for controlling various aspects of the layout. It will allow a dispatcher to keep track of all the trains more easily. Could you imagine controlling, 169 signal heads, over 200 detection blocks and 122 mainline turnouts, any other way?

Sounds like a railroad empire. What fun! One of my train buddies, who is heavily involved with the Catskill tourist train that is now doing Polar Express, recently told me that trains are all about excess: the more, the better, and no matter how big the layout, and you are clearly building a huge one, it is never big enough.

Lately I have been describing my layout to people as "a railroad simulator". I look at train buying in terms of a well balanced fleet of cars and enough engines to pull them. It's really about logistics, and how loads get from one place to another. With the size of my layout, I think there are enough possibilities, where I don't need it any bigger.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Deuce posted:

Set up around the tree. Oldest was enthralled. Took turns running the locomotive and the trolley. Just wish this train had a horn.  

Awesome!

Yeah, he was really into it. I think he's going to be surprised when he sees Thomas the Train running under the tree on Christmas morning!

This evening, I was saying "I wish this train had a horn." and my son looked at me and said "I can do it Daddy! Toot toot!" Melted my heart.

Deuce posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Deuce posted:

Set up around the tree. Oldest was enthralled. Took turns running the locomotive and the trolley. Just wish this train had a horn.  

Awesome!

Yeah, he was really into it. I think he's going to be surprised when he sees Thomas the Train running under the tree on Christmas morning!

This evening, I was saying "I wish this train had a horn." and my son looked at me and said "I can do it Daddy! Toot toot!" Melted my heart.

That's beautiful.

Deuce posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Deuce posted:

Set up around the tree. Oldest was enthralled. Took turns running the locomotive and the trolley. Just wish this train had a horn.  

Awesome!

Yeah, he was really into it. I think he's going to be surprised when he sees Thomas the Train running under the tree on Christmas morning!

This evening, I was saying "I wish this train had a horn." and my son looked at me and said "I can do it Daddy! Toot toot!" Melted my heart.

Gotta get him one of these

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Deuce posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Deuce posted:

Set up around the tree. Oldest was enthralled. Took turns running the locomotive and the trolley. Just wish this train had a horn.  

Awesome!

Yeah, he was really into it. I think he's going to be surprised when he sees Thomas the Train running under the tree on Christmas morning!

This evening, I was saying "I wish this train had a horn." and my son looked at me and said "I can do it Daddy! Toot toot!" Melted my heart.

That reminds me of our two daughters when they were that age.  They are 22 months apart, and they used the empty wrapping paper rolls as "tooters".  

Now they are both grown and married.

AMC DAVE, the pic with the two engines on the curve are they your biggest engines for checking overhang. What is the center to center spacing in that area. If that is going to be your permanent track if you have some of the Lionel scale Auto racks, High cubes or the 21 inch passengers cars I would check to make sure they don't overhang too close to the inner track and the engine cabs or fronts would hit...........Paul

Bought a 1” x 8” x 10’ for a front/side fascia that I painted with chalkboard and will have someone more creative than I draw a steamer and cars on the 8’ front section.  I started dismantle to make the move up to family room for display in a week or so.  Kinda sad to move trains off.

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Finally felt good to get something done on the layout. After three days of raking today I got the last of the leaves to the street. I started working on the hill/cliff. While laying it out I cut a piece of cardboard placing it over the track. This is where the coal loader will be. It looks like I am going to have to do this in two sections. The furthest back is too hard to reach to apply plaster wrap to. So I'll do at least half and maybe scenic it then tie it all in together because the rest will be glued in place. Pics............Paul

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Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Little boys all love trains. I've never met one that, once he was in the presence of an O Gauge train and layout, didn't love it. I also believe that little girls, by and large, feel the same way about our trains.

Councidentally, my daughter and son, both now adults, are also 22 months apart.

I could not agree more. But one thing needs mention is kids of ALL ages cannot walk past a model train display without stopping and watching with fascination. Moms, dads, grandmasGEDC2263  and grandpas all seem to go back in time and become children once again while watching toy trains. I know that when I go down to my train room all lifes problems seem to disappear for that short time. Makes my life simple and uncomplicated in that little world that I created.

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paul 2 posted:

AMC DAVE, the pic with the two engines on the curve are they your biggest engines for checking overhang. What is the center to center spacing in that area. If that is going to be your permanent track if you have some of the Lionel scale Auto racks, High cubes or the 21 inch passengers cars I would check to make sure they don't overhang too close to the inner track and the engine cabs or fronts would hit...........Paul

Just over 4.5" center to center....outside track works out to almost O-82.  I was using these guys just to test as I go. I did get the UP Big Boy out tonight and it MAY be limited to the outside track.....but it cleared everything so far. No 86 ft cars or 21" passengers on my layout.....so I think I'm OK. Thx

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