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Is PRR Green known as Brunswick Green?

I believe the green PRR GG1s were Brunswick Green which is mostly black and a little green.

The actual name was Standard Dark Green Locomotive Enamel and used by the PRR from the 1880s.  Not sure how Brunswick Green got started, maybe that was a Lionel thing.

And it did not have green paint in it per most accounts.  It was black paint with a copper oxide additive (or something like that-accounts vary) which gave it the green tinge.  The copper oxide got greener with age.

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New Tooling

NYC Mercury locomotive and scale length passenger cars

Scale C&O L1

NYC Commodore Vanderbilt locomotive

Stillwell scale length passenger cars

Accurate scale length Strasburg passenger cars

Scale length Amfleet

Rerun the C420's in NY Susquehanna and Western in yellow and black and the maroon and yellow paint schemes

I’m excited for the early challengers. Hoping they are brass hybrid with the standard vision challenger features. One can dream & hope they also add force coupler. My 1st choice would be D&H. But I would also reserve UP if D&H is not offered.

cheers, & Happy 4th!!

i actually hope they are diecast because brass might be more expensive

but what does it matter either way i can't afford it

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I Love Lionel, all I’m hoping for is better Quality Control, better packaging, and more parts for their products do to parts missing when items received. They have great offerings, just need a lot closer watch on product quality control. Great thread, there will be something for everyone in this new and highly anticipated 2022 Volume two catalog. Happy Railroading Everyone

@leapinlarry posted:

I Love Lionel, all I’m hoping for is better Quality Control, better packaging, and more parts for their products do to parts missing when items received. They have great offerings, just need a lot closer watch on product quality control. Great thread, there will be something for everyone in this new and highly anticipated 2022 Volume two catalog. Happy Railroading Everyone

Well said. Lionel always has great items to choose from with great features to boot. Like you said, though, they have had some bad luck with quality control. Also, cheaper prices wouldn't be so bad either.

@BillYo414 posted:

It's tricky. The Challenger has been on my wishlist but the model railroading funds are running quite low. Progress on my layout is stalled until I get some bills paid up. We'll see. These better be some unbelievable Challenger models. I don't mind finding a side hustle to fund the hobby. It just takes some good offerings.

i haven't made progress on a layout in over a year. my train fund right now might only cover some second hand rolling stock. i'm really starting to lose hope. my railroad isn't nicknamed Penn Central of the west for nothing.

Regarding of the offerings in the next catalog, Ryan needs to do a better job of predicting the production numbers.  Since 2019 Lionel production numbers have not kept up with demand in the mid-priced LionChief Plus 2.0 locomotives.  The overlords at Wellspring want profits but those profits are limited if the production numbers are limited.  

LionScale O scale SOO LINE RS-3 diesel-electric locomotive in the 1960's era scheme

LionScale O scale SOO LINE high-sided, four-bay, open-top hoppers

LionScale O scale SOO LINE plug-door 50' box cars in various 1960's and 1970's schemes

LionScale O scale SOO LINE flat car with bulkheads, White Car red SOO LINE, black numbers.



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@Brian DeFazio, Brian,  great thinking, the last catalog had a Legacy 0-4-0 Steam switcher, low price,  there was another catalog with a 2-8-0 Steamer, consolidation locomotive in that price range under $700 early order. I’m waiting on my early order from Patrick’s Trains (special run) for a B&O consolidation 2-8-0 Legacy steamer. I like the lower priced switchers and smaller steamers with all the Legacy features. Thank you. Happy Railroading Everyone

@leapinlarry posted:

@Brian DeFazio, Brian,  great thinking, the last catalog had a Legacy 0-4-0 Steam switcher, low price,  there was another catalog with a 2-8-0 Steamer, consolidation locomotive in that price range under $700 early order. I’m waiting on my early order from Patrick’s Trains (special run) for a B&O consolidation 2-8-0 Legacy steamer. I like the lower priced switchers and smaller steamers with all the Legacy features. Thank you. Happy Railroading Everyone

Yup!   I picked up the pennsy b6sb 0-6-0, the 4-6-0, and the camelback.  I may pick up a 2-8-0 as well.  The only one I'm unimpressed with is the 0-4-0 in the last catalog.  I have the k-line version and the detailing is very lackluster.  Had lionel cataloged the mth tooling for the 0-4-0 instead, I would've probably gone for it.  The 4-4-2 Atlantics in the last catalog were a bit too pricey for what they are in my opinion so I'll pass on those too.

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@RJ I posted:

I would love to see the return of the Legacy 2-6-0 Moguls, they would fit in nicely with the one small steam locomotive Lionel does per catalog (Ten-Wheeler, Camelback, etc.)

  • Strasburg 89 comes to mind as one I would like to see made but between the Camelback and SW8 last catalog, that is a lot of Strasburg stuff to release in a short time.

As for diesels I am hoping for another run of the H16-44.

  • Hopefully, Nassau hobby would do a custom run of some LIRR units with Lionel.

Lastly, the return of the GLa hoppers, I have two of them and love them!

I was told not too long ago that the questions had been asked by Lionel directed to the SRC about coming around for recording 89's audio for a new Legacy model. So I suspect you will get your wish, though I was told by a guy at the NCR in 2013 of Lionel intent to make the York 17, which we didn't get until 2020. So, who knows just when it'll happen.

In the "It Will Never Happen" category: 1) Lionmaster PRR E6 Atlantic; 2) Lionmaster PRR I1 Decapod; and in the "Absolutely Never Will Happen" category: a South African Railways Beyer-Garratt.

I wouldn't necessarily count out the I1, but I don't think Lionel has semi-scale tooling for an E6 Atlantic.
It'd be awesome to see a lionmaster or legacy/vision line Garratt but I'd personally rather see a smaller LMS variant .

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