I would save two historic 4-4-0 locomotive from the Civil war as I love The Great Locomotive Chase:
The General at Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History in Kennesaw, Georgia
The Texas is at Atlanta History Center, in Georgia
Charlie
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I would save two historic 4-4-0 locomotive from the Civil war as I love The Great Locomotive Chase:
The General at Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History in Kennesaw, Georgia
The Texas is at Atlanta History Center, in Georgia
Charlie
My turn!
1. DT&I Berkshire #705. Put it on tourist excursions running between Jackson, OH and Toledo, OH.
2. DT&I Berkshire #700. I say Ecorse, MI or Flat Rock, MI.
3. B&O Mountain #704. B&O Roundhouse Museum, Baltimore, MA.
4. B&O Yellowstone. B&O Roundhouse Museum, Baltimore, MA.
5. Pere Marquette Berkshire #1227. I looked up the source saying it was about to be donated right near the John Ball Zoo in Grand Rapids, MI. Too bad the park officials changed their minds.
6. Atlanta & West Point Mikado #430. It looked much too good to be a Berkshire! I say Southeastern Railway Museum, Duluth, Georgia.
7. Louisville & Nashville Berkshire #1966. I've seen pictures of its surviving tender at the SE Railway Museum. Ask the L&N executives to leave the locomotive intact back then (or maybe build a new one from scratch (hard to imagine what it'll be like, though)), and you have yourself a masterpiece.
8. Wabash Northern #2906. Two Wabash surviving steam engines aren't enough! Give it some 73-inch drivers, and put it on display at the old PM yard by also making a train museum out of the space as well.
9. Pere Marquette 2-8-0. Alden Depot, Alden, MI.
10. Grand Trunk Western 2-8-0. Waterford Historical Society, Waterford, MI.
I've written up something like this on DeviantART as well. (https://www.deviantart.com/old...way-Museum-691715033)
A short list..
- another vote for the Pennsylvania E6 and K4 types, not least for their influence on 4-4-2 and 4-6-2 types here in U.K.
- a loco which usually seems to escape mention in such threads, the Baldwin 2-6-2 in a rather poor state of cosmetic preservation near Bradenton, Florida. This is a genuinely historic locomotive with long local history. I can’t imagine it will ever run again, or what use it would be on the US preservation scene, but it would be an interesting little piece.
There ARE two 60cm Gauge Baldwin locos in use on the Brecon Mountain Railway (a 2-6-2 and a 4-6-2) and the Nene Valley Railway at Peterborough could make good use of such a loco, being built along a former dual-track roadbed it has ample clearances and a history of using Scandinavian and European locos of similar size.......
@Andrew Steiner posted:I've written up something like this on DeviantART as well. (https://www.deviantart.com/old...way-Museum-691715033)
Something's not right with the link. Can you maybe post it up again?
1. Pennsylvania T1 Duplex (I'd go with CVSR to hog it to myself, but probably Steamtown)
2. New York Central Dreyfuss Hudson (NYC Museum in Elkhart)
3. Erie or Virginian Triplex (Probably VMT either way)
4/5. Central Pacific 119 & Union Pacific Jupiter (Promontory)
6. Milwaukee Road Hiawatha (Illinois Railway Museum)
7. Norfolk & Western Y6b (Replace 2156 (which is a Y6) at VMT)
8. One of the Steam Turbines (Probably the Pennsy S2, probably Steamtown again)
9. Santa Fe Blue Goose (Maybe the National Transportation Museum in St. Louis?)
10. Great Northern 2-6-8-0 (the idea of asymmetrical articulation is cool to me) (ORHC with 4449?)
Nice choices, but most of these steam engines you've mentioned are overrated in my opinion. That's why I went with my own choices above.
@Andrew Steiner posted:Nice choices, but most of these steam engines you've mentioned are overrated in my opinion. That's why I went with my own choices above.
Oh yeah, I did it entirely based off what I'd want. If I were actually deciding for the entire railfan community I'd actually do some research instead of just taking 5 minutes and typing the first dozen that came to my head.
Quite an old thread, but interesting to see the locomotives that are important to others.
Also interesting is all of the negative energy. Sheesh, what gives?
@p51 posted:So ironic that you posted this and a few years later, IT RUNS!
I also saw someone mention the sad state of B&LE 643 which seems to have been saved since that time.
Come to think of I thought, what if we had N&W 1218, 1202, and 1230 leave that place in Charleston using them as boilers in 1961 instead of 1964. From there, I could see then in three different locations:
- 1218: Roanoke, Va
- 1202: Bluefield, WV
- 1230: National Railroad Museum in Green Bay
While we're at it, save #2143 and #2174, and place the latter at Roanoke and the former with a new tender, and send her to Portsmouth, OH.
https://ogrforum.com/...2#152477234086239422
My copy of "World's Greatest Steam Locomotives" by Eugene L. Hiddleston mentions on Page 132, "If this practice had been followed on the Norfolk & Western (later Norfolk Southern), then Portsmouth, Ohio, would have a (N&W) Class A (2-6-6-4) on display, and on the C&O (later CSX) its Class H-8 2-6-6-6 would be on display at Hinton, West Virginia, and the Virginian's Class AG 2-6-6-6 would be in Roanoke."
Gee, the fantasies of saving a choice steam locomotive are endless in my opinion.
Not to resurrect this thread, but I have compiled a list of 50 steam locomotives that I personally would have liked to see preserved. Each locomotive is a different class, they are ALL steam locomotives (with a few turbines), and I even included where I think they would be on display or possibly even operating out of if restored.
1. C&O K-2 2-8-2 (Detroit, MI)
2. L&N Big Emma 2-8-4 (Louisville, KY)
3. SOU Ts-1 4-8-2 (Charlottesville, VA)
4. IC 2499 4-6-4 (Paducah, KY)
5. NYC J-3a Dreyfuss 4-6-4 (New York City, NY)
6. N&W E2a 4-6-2 (Williamson, WV)
7. CNW E2a 4-6-2 (Madison, WI)
8. CNW J-4 2-8-4 (Kenosha, WI)
9. N&W Streamlined K2 4-8-2 (Portsmouth, OH)
10. Erie S-3 2-8-4 (Buffalo, NY)
11: NYC J-1e 4-6-4 (Cleveland, OH)
12: NYC S-1b 4-8-4 (Schenectady, NY)
13: PRR J1 2-10-4 (Pittsburgh, PA)
14: PRR Q2 4-4-6-4 (Philadelphia, PA)
15: C&O L-2 4-6-4 (Huntington, WV)
16: CNW H-1 4-8-4 (Council Bluffs, IA)
17: MILW A 4-4-2 (Minneapolis, MN)
18: MILW F7 4-6-4 (Milwaukee, WI)
19: CNW E-4 4-6-4 (Chicago, IL)
20: ATSF Blue Goose 4-6-4 (Los Angeles, CA)
21: B&O EM-1 2-8-8-4 (Baltimore, MD)
22: D&RGW L-105 4-6-6-4 (Denver, CO)
23: NP Z-5 2-8-8-4 (Portland, OR)
24: NP Z-8 4-6-6-4 (Seattle, WA)
25: Timken "Four Aces" 4-8-4 (St. Paul, MN)
26: C&O H-7 2-8-8-2 (Columbus, OH)
27: C&O M-1 Turbine (Charleston, WV)
28: PRR S-1 6-4-4-6 (Strasburg, PA)
29: SP AC-9 2-8-8-4 (El Paso, TX)
30: C&O T-1 2-10-4 (Ashland, KY)
31: WM M-2 4-6-6-4 (Elkins, WV)
32: WM J-1 4-8-4 (Cumberland, MD)
33: NYC L-4b 4-8-2 (Harmon, NY)
34: B&O P-7d 4-6-2 (Parkersburg, WV)
35: D&RGW L-131 2-8-8-2 (Littleton, CO)
36: N&W Y6b 2-8-8-2 (Roanoke, VA)
37: NH I-5 4-6-4 (Hartford, CT)
38: GN R-2 2-8-8-2 (Spokane, WA)
39: GN N-3 2-8-8-0 (Fargo, ND)
40: GN O-8 2-8-2 (Duluth, MN)
41: D&RGW M-68 4-8-4 (Salt Lake City, UT)
42: WM I-2 2-10-0 (Ridgeley, WV)
43: B&O T-3 4-8-2 (Annapolis, MD)
44: B&O V-2 4-6-4 (Washington, D.C.)
45: ACL R-1 4-8-4 (Jacksonville, FL)
46: MILW F6-a 4-6-4 (Deerfield, IL)
47: P&LE A-2 2-8-4 (Boston, MA)
48: DL&W 1151 4-6-4 (Scranton, PA)
49: N&W Jawn Henry Turbine (Bluefield, WV)
50: CRI&P R-67b 4-8-4 (Dallas, TX)
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