The most ignored road name?

The worms in love line: PC!

California & Oregon? San Antonio & Aransas Pass? Cananea y Rio Yaqui? There are more, of course.

Oh - I re-read your post. No I don't want them to make these - I already have decals.

hello guys and gals.......
what about Oregon pacific & Eastern ? of the train movie called "Emperor of the North".
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany

Well, hands down it is one of several: Oklahoma City, Ada and Atoka; Fort Smith and Western; Midland Valley; Kansas, Oklahoma and Gulf; Choctaw, Oklahoma and Gulf. Imagine Big Boys, Challengers and Super Domes for any and all of these great roads! Oh, well maybe those would be a stretch, but they all had some quirky and interesting locomotives and rolling stock. And they certainly are neglected.

New South Wales Government Railways (NSWGR) A nice E8 pair would be nice.

Maybe not THE most ignored road name but ONE OF the most ignored is Chicago Great Western (CGW). This was a good-sized class 1 railroad that never really modernized past the 1950's before it merged with the C&NW in 1968. When other RRs already had plenty of second-generation diesels, the CGW was still using F units. There has been very little CGW stuff produced in O gauge, or any other scale for that matter. I have a CGW tank car made by K-Line in the 80's, maybe a few other cars have been put out as well. A CGW F unit A-A or A-B-A set with the red paint job and "Lucky Strike" logo with a matching caboose would look nice on anybody's layout, even if they weren't a CGW fan.

Jerry, I agree with you! Atlas did made 3rd rail CGW SD40-2 which I have it. It look sharp! It would be nice if they make CGW F's units with red.

Also, Weaver did made two CGW tank cars (maroon and turquoise) with "lucky strike" logos.

Hmmm, let's see...Seaboard Air Line

More SAL, ACL, and SCL would be nice. Problem I'm finding with SAL is they had some really oddball pieces of equipment, or so heavily modified (or modified copies of originals) that they're almost one-of-a-kind.

While we're at it, how about some more Interstate RR and a Norfolk & Portsmouth Belt Line SW-1500 in EMD colors.

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Originally posted by DominicMazoch:
The worms in love line: PC!

Of any major road this is the one!

Chicago Great Western

Midland Valley

Texas & Pacific

Florida East Coast

Nickel Plate

Seaboard Coast Line

Atlantic Coast Line

Prototypical Lehigh Valley steam

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Originally posted by Swafford:
Chicago Great Western

Midland Valley

Texas & Pacific

Florida East Coast

Nickel Plate

Seaboard Coast Line

Atlantic Coast Line

I would probably challenge the premise that the Nickel Plate’s been ignored.

Everybody and their brother’s done the 2-8-4’s in various forms ranging from traditional to scale and everything in-between.

MTH did the PA’s, the SD9, a USRA Light 2-8-2, an 0-8-0 (pretty sure, or was it Lionel?) plus passenger cars.

Weaver did the 4-6-4.

Lionel and MTH have done various NKP lettered freight cars.

Even American Flyer by Lionel had a pair of GP7’s and freight cars.

And in the not sure, but think so column: 0-6-0 (MTH? Atlas O?) H10-44 (MTH?) PA’s (Williams?) GP9 (Williams?)

Rusty

GM & O

St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico

Pete

WP&YR ?

We could always use some more NYO&W!

The New York Susquehanna & Western!

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what about Oregon pacific & Eastern ? of the train movie called "Emperor of the North".

Darn!! Tiffany, you beat me to it.

..great minds think alike..

btw, don't forget the Corinth & Counce, Arkansas Midland, Mississippi Central, Arkansas & Missouri, Tennessee Central and Columbus & Greenville.

These aren't ancient roads. Most still exist or have existed recently in my area.

On large roads, NC&SL has been neglected almost completely, except by Weaver in rolling stock. No diesel to speak of and about one streamlined steam is all I know of.

And then there's the Cotton Belt. Extremely few engines. Atlas has I think done three. Overland did one in brass. MTH maybe? I know of no others. It's especially odd, because so much SP has been done, and all you need basically is to paint Cotton Belt on the side of an SP diesel and you're almost there.

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Originally posted by DaveJfr0:
Are we talking class 1 or no-name shortlines? As far as big roads that hauled a lot of tonnage go, I'd say Seaboard Coast Line is near first place. It was the merger of SAL and ACL and it covered pretty much the entire southeast and some passenger trains that still exist today, carry the names of some of the SCL trains.

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Originally posted by Bob Delbridge:
Hmmm, let's see...Seaboard Air Line

More SAL, ACL, and SCL would be nice. Problem I'm finding with SAL is they had some really oddball pieces of equipment, or so heavily modified (or modified copies of originals) that they're almost one-of-a-kind.

While we're at it, how about some more Interstate RR and a Norfolk & Portsmouth Belt Line SW-1500 in EMD colors.

You are both correct. The Southeastern U.S. railroads get virtually no attention. Even little RF&P got more love than the ACL/SAL/SCL.

Cars that have been overlooked here - http://classic.kodakgallery.co...t/main/my_new_album?

Sometime you have to make them yourself.

Still waiting for SCL - http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/scl/scl21767akg.jpg

Here's a few:

Texas and Pacific
Arkansas and Missouri(Current)
Cotton Belt-St Louis Southwestern
Kansas,Oklahoma and Gulf
Chicago and Eastern Illinois
Chicago Great Western
Nashville,Chattanooga and St.Louis
Missouri and North Arkansas (Historic)
Missouri and North Arkansas (Current)

Ricky

How about an 6464 "Obscure Box Car" series of some of the names listed above. I'd be in for the 1st set.

Mount Vernon Terminal Railway (MVT)

[/QUOTE]Darn!! Tiffany, you beat me to it.


On large roads, NC&SL has been neglected almost completely, except by Weaver in rolling stock. No diesel to speak of and about one streamlined steam is all I know of.

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Back in the 1970s Lionel made a NC&St.L boxcar, but labeled it the North Carolina and St. Louis! That was one of the first cars I bought when I first received my train.

I too vote on SCL, RF&P and FEC as being neglected. I was hoping Lionel would produce the U33B from a few years ago, since it had the EMD trucks needed to convert to a U18B.

One shortline to produce would be the Aberdeen and Rockfish. For many years, it was the first road listed in an Official Guide, and also one of the oldest shortlines still owned by the same family - over 100 years!

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btw, don't forget the Corinth & Counce, Arkansas Midland, Mississippi Central, Arkansas & Missouri, Tennessee Central and Columbus & Greenville.

On large roads, NC&SL has been neglected almost completely, except by Weaver in rolling stock. No diesel to speak of and about one streamlined steam is all I know of. [Quote]


I've got Lionel boxcars, one each for the C&G and the NC&StL. Oddly enough, the label on the box the NC&StL boxcar came in says "North Carolina and St. Louis". I picked this up at a TCA meet about a year ago and we all had a good laugh over that.

Curt

Dadgummit! Larry beat me by two minutes while I was typing.

Curt

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Oddly enough, the label on the box the NC&StL boxcar came in says "North Carolina and St. Louis". I picked this up at a TCA meet about a year ago and we all had a good laugh over that.

You know, talking about your genuine factory errors, I wonder if that one just might be worth something...

A stamp printed upside down was worth lots of money. I know that.

Not ignored, but as an under represented railroad, I would throw out the Baltimore & Ohio (B&O). It's disappointing that neither Lionel or MTH really seem much interested in the smaller, scale sized, B&O steam locomotives.

As an example, I was really excited to hear that Lionel was offering conventional Atlantics in the Volume 1 catalog, only to find out the B&O was not one of the roadnames offered.

Jim

We kind of kicked that idea around ourselves Ginsaw and couldn't reach a consensus. My wife bought me a new Greenberg guide a few weeks ago and I noticed they have a section on boxes. Maybe I'll take a look through it when I get home from work today.

Curt

No question, PRSL. (even if it's not, the squeaky wheel gets the grease! )

I'd also vote for Florida East Coast and Kansas City Southern.

Speaking of Oregon. What about the "Red Electrics" commuter trains that serviced Portland to Albany 1914? to 1929. Under the road name Southern Pacific for most of the time in service?


Mike

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Originally posted by Rusty Traque:

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Originally posted by Swafford:
Chicago Great Western

Midland Valley

Texas & Pacific

Florida East Coast

Nickel Plate

Seaboard Coast Line

Atlantic Coast Line

I would probably challenge the premise that the Nickel Plate’s been ignored.

Everybody and their brother’s done the 2-8-4’s in various forms ranging from traditional to scale and everything in-between.

MTH did the PA’s, the SD9, a USRA Light 2-8-2, an 0-8-0 (pretty sure, or was it Lionel?) plus passenger cars.

Weaver did the 4-6-4.

Lionel and MTH have done various NKP lettered freight cars.

Even American Flyer by Lionel had a pair of GP7’s and freight cars.

And in the not sure, but think so column: 0-6-0 (MTH? Atlas O?) H10-44 (MTH?) PA’s (Williams?) GP9 (Williams?)

Rusty

I think the Nickel Plate has been fairly well represented. Part of that extends from lacking the wider variety of motive power especially in steam as many roads that were larger did. They found what worked and stuck with it for the most part. Having said that I'd still like to see more stuff made! A GP-9, RS3, or a FM diesel would be great.

I would say three roads that have connections to the NKP and have been overlooked are:
Akron Canton & Youngstown
Wheeling & Lake Erie
Pittsburgh & West Virginia

How about the original Norfolk Southern Railway AS614 Baldwin diesels. MTH did do a Baldwin VO1000 switcher however. Also ACL prototypical steam engines. Not one of those painted purple ones. K Line did a P5A pacific but I missed it. MTH did a Santa Fe Northern lettered for ACL. Wrong prototype. Nothing since then worth mentioning. Southern F units in green and white tuxedo, not the Pelican scheme. At least WBB finally did F3's tuxedo in black and white executive set. Second the motion for Norfolk and Portsmouth Belt Line SW1500.

Ray

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Originally posted by Jerry Nolan:
Maybe not THE most ignored road name but ONE OF the most ignored is Chicago Great Western (CGW). This was a good-sized class 1 railroad that never really modernized past the 1950's before it merged with the C&NW in 1968. When other RRs already had plenty of second-generation diesels, the CGW was still using F units. There has been very little CGW stuff produced in O gauge, or any other scale for that matter. I have a CGW tank car made by K-Line in the 80's, maybe a few other cars have been put out as well. A CGW F unit A-A or A-B-A set with the red paint job and "Lucky Strike" logo with a matching caboose would look nice on anybody's layout, even if they weren't a CGW fan.

Jerry, I'll second that!

Soo line seems to be under represented. There is a lack of Burlington steam loco, many of which are quite handsome.

RoyBoy,

You either are new to 3-Rail Scale or haven't been looking in the right places, such as Sunset/3rd Rail.

Sunset/3rd Rail has produced the following CB&Q steam locomotives:

1) 4-8-4 O5 class in three road numbers 5614, 5629, & 5632. (I have 5614 and 5632)
2) 2-10-4 M4A in at least two different versions, one with the Elesco Feedwater system and the other with the Worthington BL Feedwater system (I have both).
3) 4-6-4 S3 and S4A Hudsons in a number of different versions and road numbers (I have two, 3007 and 4001)

I believe their next CB&Q project will be either 2-8-2 or 2-10-2 models.

PC, Family Lines, Seaboard System, GM&O

How much DT&I is there? I know atlas has done a locomotive or two and Lionel has done a few cars (maybe MTH too?). I don't really collect DT&I, but might be interested considering it was a local/Michigan road. New York Central subsidiaries might be nice too, Michigan Central for example.

Without doubt the Penn Central. It's such a shame a lot of people actually have negative emotional feelings about the company and thus are not attracted to the models. Being that it was a conglomerate of all different railroads it certainly makes for colorful and diverse model railroading.

It's been the case twice now with Lionel Penn Central GG1s, both MPC and JLC, that they were such slow sellers they became collector's items.