The most ignored road name?

As long as we're going from the sublime to the ridiculous how's bout the Briscoe and Mobeetie?

The Sublime & Ridiculous would be a great name for a railway!

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Originally posted by Christopher2035:
I think they should make more Reading stuff. I always liked the Reading & wish someone would make more of it besides the usual GP30/SW1500

Atlas O has made a number of Reading locos:

GP35 in both yellow/green and the #3640 in late green.
SW in both olive green and soon in yellow/green.
GP7 in olive green.
C630 (early version) in yellow/green.
C420 in yellow/green.
MP15DC in late green.

Did I miss any?
By the way, someone needs to make the RDG FP7's in 2 rail.

For very early Reading, SMR makes the very early Philadelphia and Reading camelback.

In addition to previous releases, MTH is making the Trainmaster in RDG.

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Originally posted by Texas Eagle 77:


That mike looks like a T&NO design. Anyone know the history of that loco?

Ricky

Trona Alco Mikado 2701 was made in 1914 for the San Pedro, Los Angeles & Salt Lake RR. Later worked at the Bolder Dam construction site, owner, Six Companies. Purchased by the Trona RR in 1937.

http://paul.mcnabbs.org/trains...noiscentral/ic.shtml

This is a web site that lists a large number of the O Gauge and O Scale items made in the Illinois Central scheme. Some are very rare. If you did not order early, you might have missed out.

If you see any IC engine or car missing on the list send him an e-mail with a photo link.

Andrew

Falcon Service

Here is an couple of railroads that are not considered;

Detriot Toledo & Ironton
3rd Rail annouced that they are doing several Berkshires, No DT&I.

Louisville & Nashville
Again 3rd Rail annouced that they are doing the Berkshire, No L&N.

Texas & Pacific
Would be nice too see at T&P 2-10-4 either in T&P,AFT or SR Colors.

Wheeling & Lake Erie
Not much here either, Lionel has done the 2-6-6-2, nothing else.

Just my 2 cents worth

Most neglected currently operational Class 1 railroad?

Cincinnati New Orleans and Texas Pacific

Can anyone show me anything that has been made for the CNO&TP?

Hokay, how about the Tioga Central up in Wellsboro, PA?????

This is a SOUTHERN railway Double-Door Box Car with CNO&TP sublettering.

LIONEL could produce that one.


The CNO&TP original equipment would all be Steam era,

Andrew

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Originally posted by zhyachts:

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Originally posted by Texas Eagle 77:


That mike looks like a T&NO design. Anyone know the history of that loco?

Ricky

Trona Alco Mikado 2701 was made in 1914 for the San Pedro, Los Angeles & Salt Lake RR. Later worked at the Bolder Dam construction site, owner, Six Companies. Purchased by the Trona RR in 1937.

During this time n history, many SP family and UP family enginnes loooked the same because they were based on Common Standards in use while the two roads were under common control.

GM&O Gulf, Mobile & Ohio---------

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Originally posted by BobDuckworth:
GM&O Gulf, Mobile & Ohio---------

Well...

MTH:
GP38
GP35
F3's
RS1
0-6-0
4-6-2
Various freight cars
Heavyweight passenger cars

Atlas O
GP38

Williams:
PA-1's
E7's
GP38
Streamline Passenger Cars

And, if you include the C&A:
Lionel:
4-6-2 and Alton Limited Passenger Train
MTH:
4-6-2 and Alton Limited Passenger Train
2-8-2

Rusty

Rusty, on the GM&O Atlas, do you mean GP35 and SD40? I have both. They also did an RS and F3. I don't think Atlas has done an O Gauge GM&O GP38.

Lionel hasn't done much if any GM&O diesel or steam. I don't count the Alton "red train". We covered that here earlier.

GM&O is pretty well represented in O Gauge. Not as much so as IC, but it's there.

Others that are out there, but not in tremendous amounts are Frisco, Rock Island, Missouri Pacific, Cotton Belt, T&P, Katy, NC&SL and L&N. Those are all pretty large roads.

Rock Island is where I think you have the most amount of different diesel paint schemes that haven't been done in O Gauge. You have quite a bit of "running room" there. Cotton Belt's another with possibilities; they're four different diesel paint schemes that are attractive which almost nobody has bothered with.

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Originally posted by Ginsaw:
Rusty, on the GM&O Atlas, do you mean GP35 and SD40? I have both. They also did an RS and F3. I don't think Atlas has done an O Gauge GM&O GP38.

Was working off the top of my head, doing some quikie on-line research and was probably thinking about Atlas's SD40, forgot about their RS1, GP35 and F3's, too.

Rusty

Rusty, Atlas might have a GP38 but I imagine in some other gauge.

Now, one company you didn't mention is Weaver. They do carry the GP38-2, and I'll speculate they might be persuaded to custom paint one in GM&O.

The Williams GM&O engines, while good looking, appear to require a passenger train to go with them.

The only "under-represented" road I know of that used a PA-1 for freight was Cotton Belt. No idea if GM&O did anything like that.

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Originally posted by Farmer_Bill:
The Sublime & Ridiculous would be a great name for a railway!

Yes my wife refers to my railroad as ridicules also but adds one more descriptive word to the front of ridicules.

Yes, I believe it to be just jealous banter.

Ginsaw - yes the GM&O ran PA's on freight toward the end, and PA's and FA's mu'd in passenger service.
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Under-represented are NYC articulateds...yes, NYC articulateds!, dear readers. 0-8-8-0 humpers and
quite a few 2-6-6-2's (relatively fast and agile for a compound; used mostly in high-tonnage but twisty-track areas). One 0-6-6-0, I think.

ALSO: some of the best-looking steam in the country was that of the Missouri Pacific, a big railroad, but often
ignored. (Along with Frisco and CNW steam.)
The MoPac 4-8-4's that began as Berkshires are some of the most handsome 4-8-4's ever. Those rwin sand domes
give it a nice, husky symmetrical look.

Phoenix Area Rapid Transit

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toot-toot

Baltimore & Atlantic

One of the most ignored has to be the Point Comfort and Northern short line from Point Comfort Texas alumina plant to the main line maybe 20 miles north. There is another similar line in Arkansas called the Bauxite and Northern from Bauxite, Ark ALCOA plant to the main line. I have probably the only model of their Switcher, made from a Marx body and Lionel shell painted in the PC & N red, white and black.

Charlie

A very short rail line with freight cars that were everywhere over the past two decades in the Eastern states is the Atlantic and Western with reporting marks of ATW.

Andrew

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The MoPac 4-8-4's that began as Berkshires are some of the most handsome 4-8-4's ever. Those rwin sand domes
give it a nice, husky symmetrical look.

..absolutely..

But, if even the Sunset CNW 4-8-4 got cancelled, I wouldn't give much for a Sedalia Northern's chances. That was actually a real shame, although I'm not even a CNW guy. The problem is, had it gone ahead it probably would've led to others, like MoPac, Frisco 1522, Cotton Belt 819 and a Rock Island oil burning Alco Northern. It was a bad omen in other words.

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Phoenix Area Rapid Transit

Bill, on yours I carefully check to see what the first letters of each word spell.

..but could only come up with P.A.R.T. of this one...

Considering the Gainesville Midland was one of the first railroads to run "excursions" in the 1950's and 1960's and how well documented it is...I'd hoped there would be more of it, and it's sister, the Toccoa Falls Railroad.

There isn't a large selection of road names from the deep south, and considering I'm not a good hand at relettering and have to have a friend do most of it for me, it does get frustrating.

Then again, even if they brought them out tomorrow, most any brand offered would be overpriced for my budget.

My last big spending was to get a used Russian decapod and touch it up to Gainesville Midland livery.

IMO, one of the New England RRs that has been mostly ignored by the train importers is the Central Vermont.

There are actually 2 Mississippi Central RR. The steam locos pictured represent what I call the old MC running through Hattiesburg & Natchez, MS. The new MC is the shortline that is still around today. Some of the old MC rails are still being used today.

Old MC, http://www.msrailroads.com/MSC.htm

I am in the process of getting the old Mississippi Central decals made right now. Malcolm

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Originally posted by Bob Delbridge:
Andrew,

How about the Mississippi Central:





My wife is from Vicksburg too, I'm wondering why she never said I need to model one of these engines

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Originally posted by KRA:
Long Island Railroad.

Considering all the liveries they have had through the years, not to mention that today, it operates the only regularly scheduled passenger train that carries a drumhead (the Friday, summer season Cannonball). It is amazing how this road continues to be ignored.

Ken

K-Line did a MP-15 and GP-38. MTH did a GP-38 and C-Liner. Lionel did a electric commuter train Tuscan painted(WITH CATENARY!). RMT did some pieces also. LIRR is there you just have to be there when they show up.

Lionel made at least 2 sets of Illinois Central F-3s:
#2363 A-Bs made in '55 & '56;
Then MPC made a set of A-B-As - #8580-81-82 - in '85 - '87 along with a matched set of 8 aluminum pass. cars (similar to the postwar "2500" series of pass. cars).
They also did an orange & white "Geep" (#8030) in a Service Station Set with matching porthole caboose (#9160) in 1970-72.
DK

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Originally posted by Lioneltrainfan:

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Originally posted by falconservice:

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Originally posted by Lioneltrainfan:
I'd have to go with Illinois central I've never seen much of it in the model railroading world

Which era of ILLINOIS CENTRAL and which scale? Check Walthers' website and Accurail's website for past production to find Illinois Central in HO Scale.

Is this about a lack of early 1900's Illinois Central Steam Locomotives?

MTH has offered a lot of 1950's and 1960's Illinois Central. Perhaps all of it might not be accurate enough.

The Illinois Central that has not gotten made in O scale and O gauge is the 1985-1999 era Illinois Central. The black, white, and gray era markings might be a bit too subtle for most people. Atlas O has offered some O Scale Illinois Central like Diesel Locomotives, refrigerator cars, hoppers, trailers, and flat cars.

Atlas O still has to do the PS 40' Hy-Cube Box car in 1967 ILLINOIS CENTRAL and the PS-1 Plug-Door 50' Box car in 1967 ILLINOIS CENTRAL. When the Atlas O production speeds up again.

Lionel had an ILLNOIS CENTRAL 40' Refrigerator car in a recent catalog.

What is noticably missing in Illinois Central are 1950's era 3-Bay and 2-Bay Covered Hopper in the correct markings and colors.

Andrew

I was basically going off of what I've seen in my local hobby shop in both O and HO scales no certain era though it seems like there has been more of it made than I originally thought.

The New York, Ontario & Western! I agree very much with KRA. The Long Island Rail Road contributed so many firsts in railroading, yet it is rare that anything in the steam era of the Long Island Railroad becomes a toy train. I guess the Long Island is seen as just a branch of the Pennsy, but the Long Island Rail Road is still in business!

Did you know that firsts for the Long Island Rail Road include piggyback service and an all steel passenger car fleet.

Even with the "new" S3, Milwaukee Road steam is way under represented.

The Cincinnati, Georgetown, and Portsmouth RailRoad. CG&P

Many people living in the area still don't know that the railroad existed.

I'd throw in my 2-cents on the most ignored roadname...

But...

I've been ignoring it.

Rusty

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ALSO: some of the best-looking steam in the country was that of the Missouri Pacific, a big railroad, but often
ignored. (Along with Frisco and CNW steam.)
The MoPac 4-8-4's that began as Berkshires are some of the most handsome 4-8-4's ever. Those rwin sand domes
give it a nice, husky symmetrical look.

The rebuilt Lima Berkshires became the 2100 class Northerns and they were very,very great looking engines.The 2200 class 4-8-4's were HUGE.Mopac had heavy Pacifics that were bigger and more powerful than most Hudsons.They had modern 2-8-4's,4-8-2's,2-10-2's.Light and heavy mikados,Fleet footed 4-4-2's with 84"! Boxbox and Scullin Drivers.

Really would like to see some Mopac steam beyond Lionel's mikado.

Ricky

Since there have been many, many roads mentioned that are more obscure than the following,
I'll add another of my home-town-headquartered roads, and, unlike the GM&O and AT&N, it still exists,
thank you very much:

The Terminal Railway of the Alabama State Docks, at Mobile. It began in the 1920's with primarily
USRA 0-6-0's, later had high-hood Alco diesels, and currently runs the EMD MP-15, among them a
lone MP-15AC, a few lease units, and is currently converting, in their own shops, one of the
MP-15's to a genset unit. I think that there are about 12 locos in all. Each one is not
only numbered, but named for a city in Alabama that the State Docks system serves in some way.
(City of Mobile, City of Selma, B'ham, etc.) They work them pretty hard; lots of traffic.
They own their own rolling stock (TASD).

Nothing "romantic" about it; just hard-core railroading.

So, Atlas - how about it? I painted and modified (fixed pilots, appropriate handrails, etc.) a K-line
MP-15 years ago, but would go for a better one. This makes as much sense as many of the other suggestions...

I won't hold my breath.

Boomer:

Just saw your post. The MP means little to me, but they had some of the
best-looking steam around; someone referred to it as, esthetically,
New York Central power grown larger and "westernized", and that converted-Berkshire
2100-class of 4-8-4's has to be one of the sexiest beasts ever. Love the double sand
domes.

I'll take one.

Seems to me that many of these could represented with an unlettered engine of reasonable close design.

Why won't MTH and Lionel sell unlettered engines ???

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Originally posted by Russell:
Seems to me that many of these could represented with an unlettered engine of reasonable close design.

Why won't MTH and Lionel sell unlettered engines ???

MTH offered their USRA light 2-8-2 unlettered several years ago. Apparently, it wasn't an effort worth repeating.

Rusty

SD&IV

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Originally posted by PC9850:
Without doubt the Penn Central. It's such a shame a lot of people actually have negative emotional feelings about the company and thus are not attracted to the models. Being that it was a conglomerate of all different railroads it certainly makes for colorful and diverse model railroading.

It's been the case twice now with Lionel Penn Central GG1s, both MPC and JLC, that they were such slow sellers they became collector's items.

Max, you are too young to have experienced it but those big black monsters (PC SD45s) were darned impressive.

Why the Terminal Railroad of course.