The most ignored road name?

If one considers traction, interurbans, LRT, and subways a kind of roadname, then:

BART, MARTA, Houston METRO, DART, Tri-Met, MUNI, San Diego Troley, North shore, South Shore, Red Arrow, PE, Shaker Heights....

What about the LAL ( Livonia Avon and Lakeville ) the parent company to the Bath and Hammondsport and for that matter the Western NY and Pennsylvania and their Alco Fleet? I have a custom painted C-424 LAL Alco - its my pride and joy!

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Originally posted by DominicMazoch:
If one considers traction, interurbans, LRT, and subways a kind of roadname, then:

BART, MARTA, Houston METRO, DART, Tri-Met, MUNI, San Diego Troley, North shore, South Shore, Red Arrow, PE, Shaker Heights....

Add WMATA to that list.

sjc:

As in Washingtom METRO? Actually, somebody did no BART and the Metro in the late 1970's. Not Lionel, but MPC motors in custom made cars.

Add PATH to the list!

How can you ignore the Silent & Deadly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNFHroz7ObM

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OMG. I just spent 2 minutes and twenty four seconds watching this

The lack of Detroit, Toledo & Ironton Auto Parts Box Cars does make it look like they are being ignored, although it would take all new O Scale models of Pullman-Standard, Greenville Steel, and Thrall Car Auto Parts Box Cars to represent the missing DT&I rolling stock fleet.

The DT&I also had some distinct molded Covers for its Coil Cars that would have to be made using CAD/CAM and vacume forming to produce the shapes of the coil covers.

They had some caboose with some unsual window and screen combinations. Then they also had the same cabooses that Wabash and Ann Arbor also had that have only been made in brass.

DT&I, GTW, C&O, B&O had the extra tall 2600 Cu. Ft. Capy. ribbed, 2-Bay Covered Hoppers that look like PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers that were stretched vertically.

So it is not intentional that accurate DT&I rollling stock is not often seen in O Scale. They are not ignored, they are just not able to be completely represented.

Andrew

Falcon Service

I would say seaboard air line in rolling stock.And the tag line.There are of lot of others.RF&P,BM are pretty rare.Oh yea theres the kcs.I would like to see more southeastern steam locomotives.Hey atlas,weaver and mth.

I would like to see WBB offer their Sharks and GP-38 painted and lettered for the Monongahela Railway.

A matching caboose would be nice, too.

Pshaw!!! All these "ignored" roads... poppycock I say.

THE most ignored line has to be one of the CLASSIEST lines to ever roll a wheel.

In fact, I put their paint scheme right up there with The Frisco. Classy operation... superb setting... great choice of power... et al. What, you ask, is this LINE??? Well... wonder no more... I'm talking about the Kansas City Terminal, of course.

Feast your eyes on THIS and ye unlearned ones shall be enlightened:





Andre Ming

Gotta be Santa Fe!

That's the one I ignore most.

I need in "SCALE" not O27!

Long Island Railroad

NJ Transit

Metro North

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Originally posted by LIRR Steamer:
Central Vermont and Rutland !

Rutland for sure.

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Originally posted by falconservice:
MidSouth was a short lived spin-off road that was absorbed into the KCS. Were they around too few years to be considered in O Scale and O gauge?

Andrew

When my wife still lived in Vicksburg I had the opportunity to go into the Mid-South's yard. My step-daughter went to school with the daughter of one of the officers of Mid-South, Jerry (or Gerry) Harmon. He invited me to go take a look. I recall seeing a number of GP10 diesels and have some photos somewhere around here. This was around 1987-1988, I think they only last those 2 years before changing names.

Here ya go:







Any idea where this is:







I know it was within short driving distance from Jackson MS.

TH&B - Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo Railway

Marx did make I-GN cattle cars!

Wheeling and Lake Erie
Pittsburgh and West Virgina
Ohio Central

Bob, here's your #841 0-6-0 engine you were asking about - http://www.terryms.org/about.asp. There's more on it here - http://www.icrr.net/ICsteam.htm. The silver smokebox hints of its ex-SP system origins.

Over at Laurel MS there's another 0-6-0, an ex-IC.

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I'm talking about the Kansas City Terminal, of course.

I'll have to go with the other side of the state, Saint Louis and the TRRA, since 1889.





Another one would be the Illinois Terminal.

Texas Transportation Company!

I'd like to see more D&H cars and locos! That paint scheme is teer-rific!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...45/DH_RF-16_1205.jpg

I would have to vote for the Texas & New Orleans. While the T&NO was an SP subsidiary they had thier own way of doing things and many differences when compared to the SP Pacific lines.

Would love to see someone do an O scale version of the Sunbeam, a T&NO Mike like the one here in Austin, a T&NO 2-10-2 like the one in Houston.

I also agree that the Texas & Pacific is under represented and would love to see them do a model of T&P 2-10-4 #610.

Atlas did an TNO switcher and caboose. But a SUNBEAM would be great. SP Atlantic Lines did do things different from the Pacific Lines.

And the 'BEAM was a "packet streamliner".

COLUMBIA & COWLITZ is the road that I was thinking of not Corinth & Counce.
They offer CLC in HO Scale, but not O Scale.







Andrew

I'd have to go with Illinois central I've never seen much of it in the model railroading world

Thanks Ginsaw!!! I took those photos back around 1987-88 I believe. My wife had to work that day (IRS in Jackson) so I got to ride around the country side and stumbled upon it.

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Originally posted by Lioneltrainfan:
I'd have to go with Illinois central I've never seen much of it in the model railroading world

Which era of ILLINOIS CENTRAL and which scale? Check Walthers' website and Accurail's website for past production to find Illinois Central in HO Scale.

Is this about a lack of early 1900's Illinois Central Steam Locomotives?

MTH has offered a lot of 1950's and 1960's Illinois Central. Perhaps all of it might not be accurate enough.

The Illinois Central that has not gotten made in O scale and O gauge is the 1985-1999 era Illinois Central. The black, white, and gray era markings might be a bit too subtle for most people. Atlas O has offered some O Scale Illinois Central like Diesel Locomotives, refrigerator cars, hoppers, trailers, and flat cars.

Atlas O still has to do the PS 40' Hy-Cube Box car in 1967 ILLINOIS CENTRAL and the PS-1 Plug-Door 50' Box car in 1967 ILLINOIS CENTRAL. When the Atlas O production speeds up again.

Lionel had an ILLNOIS CENTRAL 40' Refrigerator car in a recent catalog.

What is noticably missing in Illinois Central are 1950's era 3-Bay and 2-Bay Covered Hopper in the correct markings and colors.

Andrew

I want to see some more Magma Arizona, K line did a set for the TCA in 1999, MP15 loco ( which the railroad never had ) ore cars and a work caboose.

Let's not forget the Butte, Anaconda & Pacific, it was one of the first electric rail roads in the US, plus a very historic copper mining RR that help electrify the west.

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I'd have to go with Illinois central I've never seen much of it in the model railroading world

In my estimation, the Illinois Central is one of the most well represented roads there is in O Gauge, once you get outside those five or so main big ones.

Tonight I'm running an IC freight. Engines are IC PW Lionel F units. The IC cars are K-Line steel coil car, K-Line ICG center flow 4-bay aluminum hopper, K-Line classic tank car w/ die cast chassis, K-Line d/c 4-bay coal hopper, Lionel PS-1 boxcar, Lionel MPC 6232 steelside boxcar, Lionel PS-2 hopper, Weaver PS-1 boxcar, Weaver central discharge hopper, Weaver steelside boxcar, Atlas pulpwood flatcars (2 with different paint schemes), Atlas IC reefers (3 different paint schemes) and I have a choice of two IC E/V cabooses, either Atlas or K-Line flavored.

Then we have the various renditions of the IC City of New Orleans, and also MTH's City of Miami, and even the old Pre-War Lionel Green Diamond.

Your old Main Line Of Mid America is alive and well, in O Gauge anyhow...

I have a couple

The Hoboken Shore raiload


New York Dock Railway



Harlem Transfer


Andddd if we get a 44 tonner all three can be done

Trona RR, Trona CA.

You can't believe the carloads they handle each day.

One of Baldwin's last stands.

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Originally posted by Ginsaw:

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I'd have to go with Illinois central I've never seen much of it in the model railroading world

In my estimation, the Illinois Central is one of the most well represented roads there is in O Gauge, once you get outside those five or so main big ones.

Tonight I'm running an IC freight. Engines are IC PW Lionel F units. The IC cars are K-Line steel coil car, K-Line ICG center flow 4-bay aluminum hopper, K-Line classic tank car w/ die cast chassis, K-Line d/c 4-bay coal hopper, Lionel PS-1 boxcar, Lionel MPC 6232 steelside boxcar, Lionel PS-2 hopper, Weaver PS-1 boxcar, Weaver central discharge hopper, Weaver steelside boxcar, Atlas pulpwood flatcars (2 with different paint schemes), Atlas IC reefers (3 different paint schemes) and I have a choice of two IC E/V cabooses, either Atlas or K-Line flavored.

Then we have the various renditions of the IC City of New Orleans, and also MTH's City of Miami, and even the old Pre-War Lionel Green Diamond.

Your old Main Line Of Mid America is alive and well, in O Gauge anyhow...

And, the Weaver 2-8-0 was based on an IC 2-8-0.

Rusty

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Originally posted by trnluvr:
The Mohawk Adirondack and Northern !!

Alcos Rule!!!!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com...734_70339d3c81_b.jpg

Doug

I saw that the MA&N had been pinch hitting for the ADIX F units recently...

I also see that their ALCo S has been recently repainted and is sitting in Rome, and their NYC RS-3 has been shopped recently soon... Maybe we'll see them soon?

How about their recent acquistion of an ex-CP RS-18.

We are definitely into a field of dreams here and that is not all bad, but realisticly many of these favored roads would not generate sufficient sales to justify production. I myself admire the southern lines, mostly small that will never likely see production. I would love a NS AS-614 or a NPBL SW-12 in original colors since everything is done but the paint jobs. Neither would a Gainsville Midland or SAL decapod Hurt my feelings. What I think is really neglected is smaller every day steam such as 2-8-0 and 4-6-0s that were the backbones of every day service on many roads from the turn of the century until near the end of steam. Not starter set stuff but more detailed engines with proper valve gear and details that would suit many lines as they were cranked out in enormous numbers by Baldwin, ALCO, Brooks,etc. Railroading even in later steam days was about a lot more than articulateds, streamlined northerns and Berks, impressive though they may be. Though not of the South I think the C&IM is a neglected road and their steam locos were very attractively marked but I don't recall seeing any.

In all seriousness...

I'm trying to model the railroad operations in and around Utica, and according to my blueprints, the DL&W, the Erie as well as the NYC used Union Station.

But, I haven't seen a lot of the DL&W, Erie or NYO&W equipment.

That mike looks like a T&NO design. Anyone know the history of that loco?

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Originally posted by falconservice:

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Originally posted by Lioneltrainfan:
I'd have to go with Illinois central I've never seen much of it in the model railroading world

Which era of ILLINOIS CENTRAL and which scale? Check Walthers' website and Accurail's website for past production to find Illinois Central in HO Scale.

Is this about a lack of early 1900's Illinois Central Steam Locomotives?

MTH has offered a lot of 1950's and 1960's Illinois Central. Perhaps all of it might not be accurate enough.

The Illinois Central that has not gotten made in O scale and O gauge is the 1985-1999 era Illinois Central. The black, white, and gray era markings might be a bit too subtle for most people. Atlas O has offered some O Scale Illinois Central like Diesel Locomotives, refrigerator cars, hoppers, trailers, and flat cars.

Atlas O still has to do the PS 40' Hy-Cube Box car in 1967 ILLINOIS CENTRAL and the PS-1 Plug-Door 50' Box car in 1967 ILLINOIS CENTRAL. When the Atlas O production speeds up again.

Lionel had an ILLNOIS CENTRAL 40' Refrigerator car in a recent catalog.

What is noticably missing in Illinois Central are 1950's era 3-Bay and 2-Bay Covered Hopper in the correct markings and colors.

Andrew

I was basically going off of what I've seen in my local hobby shop in both O and HO scales no certain era though it seems like there has been more of it made than I originally thought.

Continuing along the IC trasin of thought... Back in the dark ages, Rivarrossi/AHM also had made an IC 4-6-0 (Casey Jone's engine #382 in pre-wreck configuration) in HO plus an O Scale non-powered kit. A powering kit was offered for the O Scale model.

(Plus, I have a pair of IC E8's in S Scale )

Rusty

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Originally posted by falconservice:
Elgin, Joliet & Eastern ...snip... could be considered, although even when watching a freight train, only some of the EJE. GMO, KCS freight cars had more than basic markings.

Andrew

Was/is that also called "The J"?

Toccoa, GA 20AUG11:

Carrying on a bit more with IC - I personally think the single most desirable model has to be the E units with CNO scale passenger consist. K-Line did this in either 18" or scale size cars. That is the one IC set I've never owned that I've missed. I believe MTH did this set also. To my knowledge Lionel never has, except in the MPC era with PW style F3s and 15"ers. That set I do own and I'm aware it's not prototypical.

Atlas did a nice GP9 and GP35 for IC. Weaver has a GP unit also and Williams may have one. MTH I don't know about. So '50s-'60s are somewhat covered.

Now, the one thing that is largely lacking is IC steam power. The only one I've seen is the K-Line Berk, which is supposed to be a model of the actual Lima Berk prototype that wound up an IC engine. Weaver may have included IC as a roadname on its USRA issues also, but I don't recall.

The one everybody would want is a Mountain type, but I don't think it's been done in O.