Wish list for the next Lionel catalog

@Will Ebbert posted:

Surely another run of F40s is in order soon. People need power for their Ski Train cars and I wouldn't mind a Cascades cabbage.

The Lionel F40PH is an excellent model if they fix the issues with the first run.  While I am saturated with F40PHs from MTH and K-Line, I would consider that upgrade.

i'm still confused about the release date

i hear the 14th and 19th

now which is it?

@paigetrain posted:

i'm still confused about the release date

i hear the 14th and 19th

now which is it?

The 14th came from a conversation with Ryan yesterday.

@2012ford posted:

The 14th came from a conversation with Ryan yesterday.

i guess the 14th at 9am then

Has Lionel decided to release the catalog a few days early because of the new command system leak I wonder? 🤔

my biggest wish is a lionchief SP GS-4

The GS4 is like the Shailene Woodley of locomotives both being from Cali and both being absolutely beautiful

i can't own a vision line one so i'm holding out for lionchief or LC2.0

Amtrak motive power 1970's and 1980's with LionChief.  Nostalgia decades are marching forward!

I very much like the Amtrak and New Haven versions of the FL9 diesels pictured a few posts earlier.  Does that mean they are already recently built rather than "wished for" in the 2022 catalog?  They'd sure look good next to the AA set of New Haven Legacy PA diesels I opened Christmas morning! (and the matching 6 New Haven passenger cars scheduled to ship to me in May 2022).

Newly returning to model RRs after 40+ year lull, I am first interested in the trains I have seen the most in real life.  But probably as years go by and I read more RR history, I will also look to steam power.  Now back to building my track!

@Will Wilkin posted:

I very much like the Amtrak and New Haven versions of the FL9 diesels pictured a few posts earlier.  Does that mean they are already recently built rather than "wished for" in the 2022 catalog?

Those FL9's were offered by Sunset/3rd Rail a while ago.

Rusty

Thanks Rusty, and funny enough, as new as I am returning to RRs, I had already taken notice of the Third Rail brand and imagined someday getting one of their steam engines.  Lots of finely detailed metal and lots of money, that's my impression so far.

16 days until my second christmas

i can do this

I truely understand that the 3rd Rail locomotives are great models and very true to the prototype.  At the same time, they are marketed to a higher end group of modelers. While Lionel can be pricey, they are still cheaper then most of the 3rd Rail models, and offer features that 3rd Rail does not (Bluetooth and whistle steam as an example).  

I don’t want this to derail the thread. What I am trying to say is that the O Scale market is probably capable of supporting the same or similar models from both manufacturers. I don’t believe Lionel and 3rd Rail are necessarily competing for the same buyers.

Just my two cents.

@Carl Peduzzi posted:

I truely understand that the 3rd Rail locomotives are great models and very true to the prototype.  At the same time, they are marketed to a higher end group of modelers. While Lionel can be pricey, they are still cheaper then most of the 3rd Rail models, and offer features that 3rd Rail does not (Bluetooth and whistle steam as an example).  

I don’t want this to derail the thread. What I am trying to say is that the O Scale market is probably capable of supporting the same or similar models from both manufacturers. I don’t believe Lionel and 3rd Rail are necessarily competing for the same buyers.

Just my two cents.

Agreed. Most of the 3rd rail have fixed pilots, which require o72, which most of us don’t have.

@paigetrain posted:

16 days until my second christmas

i can do this

And people say that "Catalogs don't matter anymore." Ha

@Madockawando posted:

And people say that "Catalogs don't matter anymore." Ha

the catalogs have always mattered to me atleast

sometimes i actually take them to school and show them to my friends and teachers too

Despite the digital catalogs being convenient anywhere, there is always something nice about turning the pages of a physical catalog.

Even when I look at the catalog online first, I still look forward to getting the physical copy from my local hobby shop.

@Madockawando posted:

And people say that "Catalogs don't matter anymore." Ha

The catalog/digital catalog is my favorite format followed by menards teasers. The mth format creates no suspense.

@Carl Peduzzi posted:

Despite the digital catalogs being convenient anywhere, there is always something nice about turning the pages of a physical catalog.

Even when I look at the catalog online first, I still look forward to getting the physical copy from my local hobby shop.

Me too! I love paper catalogs as well!

RPO car for O36 track layout

@Madockawando posted:

Me too! I love paper catalogs as well!

I love paper but being at the point of saturation I recently recycled all my Klambach train magazines going back to the 1940's and purchased a digital subscription.  I just don't have the room for it!

i plan on getting a hard copy shipped to my house since my shop is in Raleigh

15 days to go

i will be calling my  hobby shop after i view the catalog on line

13 days to go

i suspect the catalog will be live at 9am

hopefully i can actually preorder something even if its small

@paigetrain posted:

13 days to go

i suspect the catalog will be live at 9am

hopefully i can actually preorder something even if its small

My first pre order went well. If they make North Pole central scale caboose or a chessie sd70, I’ll have to bite. A rerun of the polar railroad sd80, but in lionmaster size is something else I’d probably purchase.

Southern Pacific MT5 with Skyline casing and correct tender. SP GP 7 or 9 Black Widow with correct SP lighting package.

I'd love to see a New Haven I-5 and/or a streamlined B&O P7.

My list

Alco Century 628

DS 4-4-1000

GP 38-2

U 33B

Scale Budd cars

Number 4 or 6 fast track switches

Tom 41miles

I'd like the Legacy 2-6-0 (without problems.... lol) or FM H16-44 re-catalogued.  Love small legacy steam.  Wouldn't say no to something new in small steam either.

Another Mogul would be awesome!

                                               BETTER QUALITY CONTROL...

Receiving cars with warping doors, upside down doors, detail parts not glued in holes.

100% agree with SIRT.  Not a hater but the last 14 Lionel boxcars I purchased have couplers that will not couple or stay coupled, many have detail parts just laying in the box or falling off.  Quality Control PLEASE!

Not to deviate off topic, but it seems to me the recent boxcars such as the roof hatch cars are made of styrene instead of ABS. I think it's old Weaver tooling, so that makes sense, but it just feels flimsy, QC issues aside.

11 days to go

how about some vert a pac auto racks

Great northern sky blue FP45

Would love some Reading Railroad trailers on a flatcar or even separately.

Reading and Northern SW8.

A Reading Crewsounds caboose.

Some new-tooled Strasburg passenger cars including the open air Hello Dolly.  

Too soon? ;-)

A lionchief CXS 3194 law enforcement locomotive and matching set would be cool! I think lionel could really have some fun with that and accessories to match.

Or perhaps some Legacy New Haven EP-5 electrics using old MTH Premier tooling (if acquired too) with catenary arching effects on the pantographs!

I also think it would be wonderful to see some older MTH tooling reused in Legacy locomotives in the new catalog.

@N&WGuy posted:

Or perhaps some Legacy New Haven EP-5 electrics using old MTH Premier tooling (if acquired too) with catenary arching effects on the pantographs!

The challenge with the MTH tooling is that it is not proportioned correctly.  I do not think MTH sold the tooling for their electrics yet.  The K-Line EP5 was nearly spot on.  Sadly, that tooling is either gone or sitting in the corner of the Kader factory