Wish list for the next Lionel catalog

@harmonyards posted:

At the time of the A2’s, the P&LE was still an adopted child of the NYC, thus, they all wore “ New York Central Systems “ ….had the A2 come before the change of Railroad Roman to Railroad Gothic, they might have worn “ New York Central Lines”

Pat

Well, being from the Pittsburgh area, it would be great to see these in P&LE paint. Lionel is good with fantasy schemes, and P&LE could sit right along side the NYC paint. Those might be one of the few steam I would seriously consider buying.

A chessie sd70ace to go with my preordered b&o sd70ace. Also, how about a lionmaster sized polar express set. Furthermore, a North Pole central caboose without the camera and some more ma & pa stuff would be nice.

@Csxcellent posted:

A chessie sd70ace to go with my preordered b&o sd70ace. Also, how about a lionmaster sized polar express set. Furthermore, a North Pole central caboose without the camera and some more ma & pa stuff would be nice.

I would really like to see a Lionel Lines SD70ace and a Quebec and Central Maine Dash-9

@Carl Peduzzi posted:

I have already said I want to see a new Siemens Charger (this would make a great Vision Line loco), but I have still been thinking about this, and here are some other thoughts.

Modern passenger cars would be nice. Reasonably priced Amfleet cars or Superliners. Viewliners would be awesome, though that would definitely require new tooling.

Another thought would be a Lionel made 5-car articulated deep well intermodal set. I think with as much intermodal traffic that flows through this country, this form of car is still greatly underrepresented.

Concerning  "modern passenger cars," Lionel should be announcing uncatalogued Amtrak diesels, passenger cars and sets at York. As far as pricing, one can always dream.

@Carl Peduzzi posted:

Well, being from the Pittsburgh area, it would be great to see these in P&LE paint. Lionel is good with fantasy schemes, and P&LE could sit right along side the NYC paint. Those might be one of the few steam I would seriously consider buying.

You may just get your wish, ….one thing for certain, they've clearly gotten fantasy schemes correct,,…🤔

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

I gotcha one better than that Skip,…let’s hope they get the Dreyfuss tools, …..with the PT tender having the water scoop effect,…..😳😳😳……imagine that pulling the limited ……ooooohhh,…and roller rod bearings,….😁😁😁

Pat

Funny, I was just talking about acquired MTH Toolings on another thread about Vision Line engines, what would be the next one to come out. On that one I said how the VL projects are years in the making, about 5 or so depending on what the project is. See if there is one VL engine in the next catalog or not.

Now, about Dreyfuss Hudson's, oh yeah, they had to have gotten a hold of that tooling, unless it was not for sale. I am really hoping that yes indeed it is part of the purchase of toolings, along with some other engines that have ever been produced once, or not at all. Sounds like I am talking about the other two of the big three engines, the PRR T1 and the N&W Class A, and yeah, that is exactly what I am talking about.

@NYC Fan posted:

Legacy P&LE A2 Berkshire from MTH tooling.

With you here too Skip.

The die-cast metal three-bay, open-top hoppers need to be made out of lighter aluminum, so they can be placed anywhere in the train without having couplers in front of the hoppers being stretched and popped open from the weight.

The O scale die-cast aluminum three-bay open-top hoppers need to be produced in schemes for the

Chessie System

B&O, C&O, WM

the SOO LINE

THE ROCK 

Andrew

The O scale 8-Door 86' high-cube boxcars need to be produced in the Grand Trunk Western paint schemes and road numbers as built in 1965 and 1967.

Photos of the GTW 8-door 86' high-cube boxcars are available on the Canadian Freight Car Gallery website.

Andrew

Lionel is due for a new Torpedo based on the new Baby K4 chassis with LionChief Plus 2.0.  Also, I would like to see a new North Pole Express Streamliner with an FT diesel.

I would like to see a NYC Mercury Set and a new City Series…

City of LosAngeles,

City of Denver

City of New Orleans

All using the same passenger car models from their Super Chief set.  Those passenger cars have been around since 2000. I have several roadname sets. They will work on any layout and look great.

@Carl Peduzzi posted:

I have already said I want to see a new Siemens Charger (this would make a great Vision Line loco), but I have still been thinking about this, and here are some other thoughts.

Modern passenger cars would be nice. Reasonably priced Amfleet cars or Superliners. Viewliners would be awesome, though that would definitely require new tooling.

Another thought would be a Lionel made 5-car articulated deep well intermodal set. I think with as much intermodal traffic that flows through this country, this form of car is still greatly underrepresented.

Golden Gate Depot is doing Superliners and a second run of Viewliners and Amfleets. Not everyone considers them reasonably priced, but a lot of the market share has been fulfilled by them.

Atlas has 3 car articulated well cars but they're 53'. A 40' set would be nice though.

@Will Ebbert posted:

Golden Gate Depot is doing Superliners and a second run of Viewliners and Amfleets. Not everyone considers them reasonably priced, but a lot of the market share has been fulfilled by them.

Atlas has 3 car articulated well cars but they're 53'. A 40' set would be nice though.

Good suggestion for the Amtrak cars. I have seen the Golden Gate Depot site and I am sure the cars will look great. I am hoping that whomever has their hands on the MTH Superliner tooling would produce a new run. While maybe not as detailed as the GGD models, I feel that the prices ( even with Lionel’s markup) would be more reasonable for a broader range of consumers. And competition is always good.

Based on some comments made in the last Lionel YouTube presentation for the latest catalog, Siemens engines and Superliners could possibly be forthcoming.  Maybe I am reading too much into the statements that Ryan made.

I agree, 40’ articulated deep well cars would be great. I would buy any Atlas cars if they offered them again. Maybe it is me and the more modern era I model, but intermodal cars just seem underrepresented compared to their use in the real world.

It is strange the people at LIONEL did not choose to have the Gunderson/Greenbrier MAXI-STACK five-unit car with 40' wells produced as an O scale model in the past 20 years.

Andrew

@falconservice posted:

It is strange the people at LIONEL did not choose to have the Gunderson/Greenbrier MAXI-STACK five-unit car with 40' wells produced as an O scale model in the past 20 years.

Andrew

These five-car units are something I have been waiting for and wanting to see produced for a longtime! A bit jealous when I see a new N or HO scale version of them released.

Some already produced traditional cars and accessories lettered for the Boston and Albany and AEC, like a crane car or gantry crane.  Maybe something that actually ran at Hanford, like a GP-7 or RS-1 in Hanford Works orange or DOE white, and a four pack of depressed center cask cars. Some of Lionel's already produced steam in Boston and Albany versions, like an F-12e or Mikado.   For something new, a 2-6-6-2 in B&A and NYC versions.   Maybe an O gauge HH600, like many of us hoped Atlas would come out with years ago.  More New England region equipment in 1920's-WW2 Era paint and lettering.  I think we've have our share of McGinnis colors and NYC Jade green.

I would love to see the LC+2.0 0-6-0T in more road names, especially New York Central.  I have one from the first series of conventional docksiders and I'd love a command equipped one. (or two, or three)

@FJI posted:

I love running  a long string of Lionel’s 86 ft box cars on our club’s layout I really wish Lionel would offer some 86 ft box cars with sound The existing sound cars just look so small riding in between the 86  ft cars  The cars could even have two speakers

Just take the guts out of the PS-1 and add them to one of the 86's...don't forget to switch out the truck with the sensor on it as well.  As far as adding an additional speaker, that would require knowledge of the current speaker impedance, etc...

Anthony

New Haven 2-6-0 or 4-4-2

A Lionchief plus 2.0 671 Turbine PW style, not the bantam junk!

Bring back Super O track system.

VW 150 watt traditional transformer.

Thanks, Phil

The modern gondolas built by Thrall Car, Pullman-Standard, Greenville Steel Car, Ortner, and Trinity since 1970 have to be stamped out of thin sheets of steel or stainless steel and welded together to make models in O scale proportions.

Andrew

LionScale SOO LINE GP38-2 diesel engine-electric motor locomotive in the 1977 red SOO scheme. 4400-4409.

LionScale SOO LINE plug-door 50' modern box car series or set of 6 in all of the SOO LINE paint schemes applied between 1965 and 1980.

Andrew

Siemens Charger, and some PRR 21" passenger cars, I missed the first run.

1980's era Boston & Maine train set that has a

Boston & Maine GP38-2 diesel-electric locomotive

BM plug-door 50' modern box car

BM B&M ACF CENTER FLOW 3560 Cu. Ft. 3-bay covered hopper

BM gondola

BM flat car with Boston & Maine trailer

BM B&M three-bay open-top hopper

Boston & Maine caboose

Andrew

Something else came to mind. A B&O f3/ft passenger set. The last Santa Fe set had really nice interiors instead of the silhouettes.

If the O gauge EMD/EMC FT diesel-electric locomotives are produced again they should only be sold in A-B sets or A-B-B-A sets like the real ones. 

They have yet to make a Minneapolis & St. Louis EMC/EMD FT diesel-electric locomotive set that is A-B-B-A units.

It has to be TrainMaster Command Control compatible. 

Andrew

@Csxcellent posted:

Something else came to mind. A B&O f3/ft passenger set. The last Santa Fe set had really nice interiors instead of the silhouettes.

The F3 and the FT diesel locomotives are not interchangeable.

The FT were sold in A-B units only

The F3 were available as individual A units and B units.

Somebody has to choose one or the other and not mix-up the concepts.

Andrew

@falconservice posted:

The F3 and the FT diesel locomotives are not interchangeable.

The FT were sold in A-B units only

The F3 were available as individual A units and B units.

Somebody has to choose one or the other and not mix-up the concepts.

Andrew

Some railroads (like Santa Fe) ordered couplers between the FTA and B units.  Great Northern ordered ABA sets of FTs.

Lionel's been selling LionChief passenger sets with only an FTA unit for years.

Image: Lionel 2021 V1.

Rusty

Looking for Reading Company Baggage car to go with set (like the New Haven in last catalog) and even maybe a RPO and Passenger car with lanterns on the back in Reading.

how about passenger cars with steam heating smoke

Transfer cabooses; more specifically, some railroads removed the cupola from their older cabooses and used them in transfer service. The Milwaukee Road did that and I imagine others did, too. While I suppose I could cannibalize an old woodside caboose, I'm reluctant to do that.

A rerelease of the FEF-3 but hopefully this time in a greyhound/ two-tone grey but with silver striping would be cool or a rerelease of the Legacy Allegheny.

@Realbstueck posted:

A rerelease of the FEF-3 but hopefully this time in a greyhound/ two-tone grey but with silver striping would be cool or a rerelease of the Legacy Allegheny.

I'd say too soon for the FEF-3's, give that maybe another two cycles of the catalog. Allegheny would be coming next year I would imagine most likely the following catalog to the January release or the following January of 2023. I would believe that it is possible that the Y6's will show up in 2023 or even sooner. I think the last offering of that was 2016.

If the Y6's show up, it is very possible that the FEF-3'S will be right around the corner as well. Regardless, I think that the Allegheny's would show up first out of those 3.

more New Hope and Ivyland stuff

more strasburg stuff

i just hope i get to see the catalog because if my doctor finds colon cancer i may have to go back with my dad and stepmother which means i will lose everything and my train hobby and access to anything that is a special interest will be over. in fact its like punishment for something i have no control over. it seems like i have all the symptoms anyway. i see my doctor in the friday after next friday

I wouldn't mind a re-release of the F40PH with the known issue of the short wire rubbing against the can motor repaired.  It is a much better model than MTH's version from a detail standpoint. 

Curious to see what MTH tooling we’ll see. Maybe an A2 berk, decapod, or triplex?

Lionel sales seem to be doing well with smaller legacy scale engines in recent catalogs. (Ten wheeler, camelback, 2-8-0). Wondering what the offering will be this time around. Maybe an 0-8-0? Plenty of roadname options

I have moved from Postwar traditional sized trains to scales sized trains and I would like to see more PS-1 boxcars, PS-2 hoppers, 100 ton coal hoppers, PS-5 gondolas, PS-4 flatcars as well as Legacy diesels that can run on O-36 track.  In addition to prototypical road names I would like to see non-prototype road names available as well. I would not mind to see "Lionel Lines" versions of these scale cars as well as Lionel Lines scale legacy diesel locomotives.

I mean, doesn't everyone want an orange and blue Lionel Lines SD70ace?

For those that missed it, Ryan from Lionel mentioned on the most recent "Workbench Wednesday" that the 2022, Volume 1 catalog will be the largest catalog in recent memory. Lots of "...new O gauge and traditional items..."

@johnstrains posted:

For those that missed it, Ryan from Lionel mentioned on the most recent "Workbench Wednesday" that the 2022, Volume 1 catalog will be the largest catalog in recent memory. Lots of "...new O gauge and traditional items..."

Yeah!!! Should we expect to see it in January/February?

Ryan from Lionel mentioned that the new catalog will be coming near the end of January! Going by the last few years it should be coming out sometime around January 20th.

I’d really like to see a Legacy New York Central Dreyfus Hudson with some matching 21” passenger cars! Plus I’m really looking forward to seeing the Vision Line N&W A’s and the things that will hopefully be going along with them! 😁