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Well I don't know if it qualifies as "cool" but then again I am a life long engineer and that means genetically "cheap".  So every now and then, just for fun, I troll e-bay for those "train show under the table" bargains - you know that you search out just before going home.   Well here is what I found the other day...TWO Lionel (LTI Mt. Clements) double door SP&S boxcars  advertised with an opening bid less than what one normally pays for one LTI or MPC boxcar.  So I threw in a minimum bid and it turned out to be the only bid and I won!  These SP&S double doors were offered by LTI in 1989 and are reasonably robust cars with two operating couplers,  metal wheels and axles and a sheet metal floor for support.  So here is my "new" acquisition

They were both nearly new with no signs of ever being out of the box.  Their plastic inner envelope was intact and the box was clearly like new and perhaps not even opened although I can't say that for certain.  These are what we call Lionel's "window" box and it was used by both MPC and LTI at least at the beginning of their production.  This would have been about 4 years into the LTI era.

Lionel SP&S two boxes

I just noticed that the "S" in SP&S is obscured by the car door, so here is an out of the box picture showing the full livery.

Lionel SP&S side view

Best wishes - Have a good week

Don

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@mike g. posted:

Hi guys, this could be along post so I am going to leave some of the photos small. I went to visit a friend I have not see for years and he had a bunch of stuff he just gave me, cause he see a video of my layout. I will start off with track and rolling stock.



Last but not least he gave me the Pennsylvnia 682 with tender. The funny thing is I never seen a tender with a coal scoop on the bottom!

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I do have a question, does anyone know how to remove the broken stud you see here on the steam piston?IMG_20220307_101526

Then last but not least he gave me power to run it all!

I would add more, but it's just stuff like 1969 UP Calanders, Great Northern and BN track maps, stuff like that. If anyone is interested in seeing them let me know!



Nice score.

The 682 was from 1954-1955, some what rare engine. Look at the underside of the tender, if it has "2046w-50 stamped on it, it's correct for that engine.

Apples55 and pennsyfan :  THANK YOU Both...for the tips on where to get the "I Love xxx " boxcars.  I did go to Grzyboski's trains and they have an entire section for the I Love series of Lionel cars.  I was able to get the "I Love Georgia" car and its on its way to my house now.  The "I Love Maryland" car was way out of my price range for reasons I don't understand, I guess it must be rare because ???  (they didn't make many?) but compared to $35 for Georgia it was $200 for Md.  Too much for me.  So I will keep hunting that one for now.  Anyway thanks a lot guys, now I am 7 out of 8 !

Best Wishes

Don

Apples55 and pennsyfan :  THANK YOU Both...for the tips on where to get the "I Love xxx " boxcars.  I did go to Grzyboski's trains and they have an entire section for the I Love series of Lionel cars.  I was able to get the "I Love Georgia" car and its on its way to my house now.  The "I Love Maryland" car was way out of my price range for reasons I don't understand, I guess it must be rare because ???  (they didn't make many?) but compared to $35 for Georgia it was $200 for Md.  Too much for me.  So I will keep hunting that one for now.  Anyway thanks a lot guys, now I am 7 out of 8 !

Best Wishes

Don

The Train Station (NJ) had a bunch for sale recently for 22-30$. He had the Georgia but not the Maryland on his weekly 25% off list. Might be worth a call to see if he has the Maryland and at what price.

@GregK posted:

Picked up a LC+2.0 Lionmaster Conrail SD80MAC that Lionel put out a year or two ago. I have the version from 2003 as well - the tooling is identical but the electronics are a huge upgrade. The blue paint on the new one is also way lighter and the locomotive is actually quite a bit lighter than the 2003 version. I’ll post some pictures later. I wonder which paint color is closer to the prototype.

A few pics. 7203 is the old, and 4100 is the new.



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@Trussman posted:


Nice score.

The 682 was from 1954-1955, some what rare engine. Look at the underside of the tender, if it has "2046w-50 stamped on it, it's correct for that engine.

Hi there, I just looked and it does have the 2046w-50 stamped on the bottom! I just hope I can get it running after I fix the arm pin!

Thanks for the information!

@GregK posted:

A few pics. 7203 is the old, and 4100 is the new.



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The sound package on the 4100 is nice, but there is enough static/distortion to bother me a little. Not sure if that’s just the way it is or if this unit has some issues. I don’t have a Legacy diesel to compare it against, but my LC+2.0 Berkshire definitely has clearer/cleaner sounds.

Here’s a video with both. About 17 years apart.

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@mike g. posted:

Hi guys, this could be along post so I am going to leave some of the photos small. I went to visit a friend I have not see for years and he had a bunch of stuff he just gave me, cause he see a video of my layout. I will start off with track and rolling stock.

First off he gave me 15- old Lionel curved track, I know what radius, along with 20 straight section, 1 uncoupler/unloader section, 1 cross and 1 RH switch number 042. I am not sure what kind of layout I could build with this, but I am sure someone out there has an idea!

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Then for rolling stock he gave me a bump and go MOW car, a Lionel track cleaning car that I have never seen before. Here are a couple photos of them.

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The for the normal rolling stock he gave me the NYC Double deck pig car.

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The R.I boxcar

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The A.T. & S.F. barrel car

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Along with this Pennsylvnia caboose.

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Last but not least he gave me the Pennsylvnia 682 with tender. The funny thing is I never seen a tender with a coal scoop on the bottom!

IMG_20220307_101457

I do have a question, does anyone know how to remove the broken stud you see here on the steam piston?IMG_20220307_101526

Then last but not least he gave me power to run it all!

IMG_20220307_101853

I would add more, but it's just stuff like 1969 UP Calanders, Great Northern and BN track maps, stuff like that. If anyone is interested in seeing them let me know!

Great gift that 682 always wanted, traintender has parts for your 682 WTG.

Apples55 and pennsyfan :  THANK YOU Both...for the tips on where to get the "I Love xxx " boxcars.  I did go to Grzyboski's trains and they have an entire section for the I Love series of Lionel cars.  I was able to get the "I Love Georgia" car and its on its way to my house now.  The "I Love Maryland" car was way out of my price range for reasons I don't understand, I guess it must be rare because ???  (they didn't make many?) but compared to $35 for Georgia it was $200 for Md.  Too much for me.  So I will keep hunting that one for now.  Anyway thanks a lot guys, now I am 7 out of 8 !

Best Wishes

Don

Glad you were able to pick up one of your cars, Don. For $200, I hope Maryland comes with a large order of lump crab cakes

Finally had a chance to take some pics of my new “Mohawk”. I must say, this is a really beautiful, well done engine. The amount and quality of the applied details is very impressive. Although the Lionel catalog calls all the Mohawks L2a’s, I’m happy that the New Haven model of 3507 correctly identifies it as an R2a (built at Schenectady in 1926).

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The details in the cab are particularly impressive!!!

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If I have any quibbles about this engine, it would be with the classification lights. Not sure if this has been done before - both the pair on the front of the engine and the pair on the back of the tender have fairly thick wires with the bulbs which come through the casting below the classification light and bend up into the lenses. While it is relatively hard to notice, if one were to pop out, it would be very apparent (don’t ask how I know that ). Here is a pic of one from the tender.

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One last comment… this engine has the switches on the underside of the cab (ugh!!!). I never use smoke, so when I set the switch to program, I always set smoke to off. Since, in this case, I didn’t read the instructions before setting up the engine (“we don’t need no stinkin’ instructions” ), I missed one thing… in addition to the smoke switch, there is another that just says whistle. Not thinking, I left the whistle on - gotta have whistle!!! In looking at the manual, I found out that whistle refers to whistle smoke. Have to turn that one off too. In my defense, in other engines I have, the switch usually was labeled something like whistle smk. Live and learn!!!

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@Apples55 posted:

Finally had a chance to take some pics of my new “Mohawk”. I must say, this is a really beautiful, well done engine. The amount and quality of the applied details is very impressive. Although the Lionel catalog calls all the Mohawks L2a’s, I’m happy that the New Haven model of 3507 correctly identifies it as an R2a (built at Schenectady in 1926).

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The details in the cab are particularly impressive!!!

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If I have any quibbles about this engine, it would be with the classification lights. Not sure if this has been done before - both the pair on the front of the engine and the pair on the back of the tender have fairly thick wires with the bulbs which come through the casting below the classification light and bend up into the lenses. While it is relatively hard to notice, if one were to pop out, it would be very apparent (don’t ask how I know that ). Here is a pic of one from the tender.

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One last comment… this engine has the switches on the underside of the cab (ugh!!!). I never use smoke, so when I set the switch to program, I always set smoke to off. Since, in this case, I didn’t read the instructions before setting up the engine (“we don’t need no stinkin’ instructions” ), I missed one thing… in addition to the smoke switch, there is another that just says whistle. Not thinking, I left the whistle on - gotta have whistle!!! In looking at the manual, I found out that whistle refers to whistle smoke. Have to turn that one off too. In my defense, in other engines I have, the switch usually was labeled something like whistle smk. Live and learn!!!

She's a beauty Paul.

Seems that K-line figured out class lights years ago......

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@mike g. posted:


I do have a question, does anyone know how to remove the broken stud you see here on the steam piston?IMG_20220307_101526

Then last but not least he gave me power to run it all!

IMG_20220307_101853

I would add more, but it's just stuff like 1969 UP Calanders, Great Northern and BN track maps, stuff like that. If anyone is interested in seeing them let me know!

Hard to see from the pic, but is there enough material to cut a small slot in the stud with a dremel wheel and then back it out with a flat screwdriver ? If there is, soak it with some liquid wrench to loosen it up first.

@Richie C. posted:

Hard to see from the pic, but is there enough material to cut a small slot in the stud with a dremel wheel and then back it out with a flat screwdriver ? If there is, soak it with some liquid wrench to loosen it up first.

Just a piont of clarification, this was Lionel's early representation of Pennsy S2 Turbine engine.  Thus there is no piston(s).  Now that linkage added to this "years" model represents the oiler linkage.

Now I agree with the poster above in that would cut a small with a Dremel.  But , before would research for any details on this model for clarification of the screw.

Ron

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@Richie C. posted:

Hard to see from the pic, but is there enough material to cut a small slot in the stud with a dremel wheel and then back it out with a flat screwdriver ? If there is, soak it with some liquid wrench to loosen it up first.

Had another thought that this may not be threaded but a press fit.  Looking at some posted info I see Legacy Station calls it a "Valve Gear Rivet."

Ron

Hi guys, I hope your all doing well!

Paul, that is one Beautyful engine! I Love the detail also!

Lionelman, some nice addition to your power supply!

Richard, some good-looking stuff there! I just got the barrel car myself. I haven't tried it because I don't have an activation track on my layout.

Thanks for all the tips on how to fix the pin holding the arms on the side of the engine. FYI I took the shell off and there is no way to access from the inside. The pins are not threaded they push into place. The only way I could figure out how to get them out was drill the old pin studs out. Good thing I have a drill press and already had replacement parts. But I will tell you its a PIA when you have poor vision! LOL

@mike g. posted:

Hi guys, I hope your all doing well!



Thanks for all the tips on how to fix the pin holding the arms on the side of the engine. FYI I took the shell off and there is no way to access from the inside. The pins are not threaded they push into place. The only way I could figure out how to get them out was drill the old pin studs out. Good thing I have a drill press and already had replacement parts. But I will tell you its a PIA when you have poor vision! LOL

"PULL" the part out, since it was after all just "pushed" in.

Ron

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